if he falls in love, would he still be aromantic? the direction this manga is going it see...

hachi leaf November 11, 2023 1:07 pm

if he falls in love, would he still be aromantic? the direction this manga is going it seems like he will fall in love lol and no not just as friends. aromantic people, as far as i know, feels love for family, friends, etc. but doesn't feel inclined to be in a romantic relationship with anyone. so in this case if he's truly aromantic and just wanna be friends (that has sex, totally different from just being sex friends) then that would be hella destructive for seme since he'll forever live with an unrequited love for someone he'll have sex a lot with. well, unless if he's okay with that arrangement.

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    hachi leaf November 11, 2023 1:13 pm

    and if you'll say he might be on the fluctuating spectrum then no. cause as you can see he never experienced it, it never fluctuated. you think author will make it "fluctuate" out of convenience starting now just because the seme is here? i doubt. it's a failure of aromantic rep if he does fall in love romantically but i know readers want it to happen so

    Roronoa Zoro November 11, 2023 1:15 pm

    I'm pretty sure aromantic ppl can fall in love, but it takes longer to build the trust with someone than it would with a non aromantic person, like there has to be a deeper connection between them and the other person for them to feel romantic feelings if that makes sense

    hachi leaf November 11, 2023 1:19 pm
    I'm pretty sure aromantic ppl can fall in love, but it takes longer to build the trust with someone than it would with a non aromantic person, like there has to be a deeper connection between them and the other... Roronoa Zoro

    i believe that's under demiromantic which is until now being debated if it really should be under aromanticism cause they do still feel romantic attraction but needs a deeper connection. i dont get why it needs to be this complicated, as an aromantic person myself.

    hachi leaf November 11, 2023 1:27 pm
    I'm pretty sure aromantic ppl can fall in love, but it takes longer to build the trust with someone than it would with a non aromantic person, like there has to be a deeper connection between them and the other... Roronoa Zoro

    also i dont think he's under that too. he clearly said he tried it out before, to see if he can fall in love, but it never happened. do i doubt he's demiromantic. I've refreshed myself of the categories under aromanticism (including ones I generally don't agree with) and so far he only really fits under the general aromantic category.

    he doesn't fluctuate
    it doesn't matter if the other guy likes him or not
    deeper connections also doesn't matter

    so yeah it's pretty clear he's the standard aromantic description of a guy. if he falls in love then that rep is thrown away basically. i wonder what the author will do lol

    Gazella November 11, 2023 2:45 pm

    I mean Japanese manga doesn't have a history of being the best representation of anything. even early "yaoi" was problematic af and only recently did it start to get better. the bi representation Is butchered with the "nOt aLL Men JuSt YoU" trope. so yeah I wouldn't expect anything grand out of this eather
    also if he actually fell in love he might just be demiromantic ?

    hachi leaf November 11, 2023 3:02 pm
    I mean Japanese manga doesn't have a history of being the best representation of anything. even early "yaoi" was problematic af and only recently did it start to get better. the bi representation Is butchered w... Gazella

    you're totally right about the bi rep but i guess the "not all men JUST YOU" would come really close to pansexuality because it's implying they like the person as they are but it still isn't perfect rep cause we gotta go through hoops to make the connection lol

    also i kinda doubt he's demi since he said he tried dating someone to see if he'll eventually fall in love after being together for long but nothing came about it. i saw something about being grayromantic but im not really too keen about it, it just seems like a really specific term under demiromantic. it says little to no romantic attraction/only falls in love under VERY SPECIFIC circumstances (no offense to the people who's under this but this really just sounds like a demi with very specific preference and i wouldnt consider it aro, personally) - but if he's like this then imo he's as good as demiromantic ig

    Gazella November 11, 2023 3:27 pm
    you're totally right about the bi rep but i guess the "not all men JUST YOU" would come really close to pansexuality because it's implying they like the person as they are but it still isn't perfect rep cause ... hachi leaf

    you're putting way too much faith in manga writers to assume pansexualinty since the guys always have a history with girls off topic but I'll never understand the famous internalised homophobia trope. it's been ran to the ground
    also yeah I think demi would cut it better for him considering the direction of the plot

    hachi leaf November 11, 2023 4:11 pm
    you're putting way too much faith in manga writers to assume pansexualinty since the guys always have a history with girls off topic but I'll never understand the famous internalised homophobia trope. it's bee... Gazella

    yeah was gonna say that too it's the closest thing to pan instead of bi but not really since there's a catch

    Roronoa Zoro November 11, 2023 7:19 pm
    also i dont think he's under that too. he clearly said he tried it out before, to see if he can fall in love, but it never happened. do i doubt he's demiromantic. I've refreshed myself of the categories under a... hachi leaf

    Like you and the other person were talkin ab, representation is often butchered in these types of mangas lol, but realistically speaking, I think he could possibly be demi, even if he tried dating before, there could always be the factor of the person he tried to date just wasn't for him cause obv you won't fall for just anyone you spend time with, you could know someone for years and still not have the deep connection, I know that's how it is for me at least. As for the demi being apart of aro debate you were talking ab, I feel like they're separate but similar categories, ppl can be both or just one, considering some demi ppl can have romantic interest

    Roronoa Zoro November 11, 2023 7:23 pm
    i believe that's under demiromantic which is until now being debated if it really should be under aromanticism cause they do still feel romantic attraction but needs a deeper connection. i dont get why it needs... hachi leaf

    I'm also an aro person, but I feel like it just depends on the person. Aro means little to no romantic attraction, so that doesn't mean every aromantic person is unable to feel that attraction at all

    hachi leaf November 11, 2023 11:14 pm
    I'm also an aro person, but I feel like it just depends on the person. Aro means little to no romantic attraction, so that doesn't mean every aromantic person is unable to feel that attraction at all Roronoa Zoro

    him being demi is the closest i can think so far. as for aromantic becoming a vague umbrella to categorize people, it's one of my gripes actually. i hope people just put terms that actually experience romantic attraction under a different umbrella cause it makes it even harder to just plainly say you're aromantic because it's filled with specifications that still experience them so there are people that still expects you to possibly experience it. idk if you get what i mean but basically if i say to people im aromantic and cant return their feelings then they wouldn't really expect that im completely unable to feel romantic attraction and hope that that there's still a chance even if there isn't just because there are categories that do. it renders the label useless cause instead of just me saying "im aromantic", i have to go into details what *kind* of aromantic i am. i believe these generic labels were supposed to sum up your preference without making it so complicated. so yeah... labels not being clear cut is counterproductive and i personally don't like it.

    Roronoa Zoro November 12, 2023 2:01 pm
    him being demi is the closest i can think so far. as for aromantic becoming a vague umbrella to categorize people, it's one of my gripes actually. i hope people just put terms that actually experience romantic ... hachi leaf

    Yeah I totally get what you're saying, ppl often think it's odd that I don't have an interest in dating, and then I tell them I'm aro, I feel like it causes even more confusion because a lot of ppl don't understand the concept. I think aro ppl could possible feel the attraction but it'd be better if there was a different word for them, like semi-aro or smth lol, instead of every type being labeled the same

    hachi leaf November 12, 2023 5:16 pm
    Yeah I totally get what you're saying, ppl often think it's odd that I don't have an interest in dating, and then I tell them I'm aro, I feel like it causes even more confusion because a lot of ppl don't unders... Roronoa Zoro

    oh yes also thank you for being so understanding i felt so seen haha

    Roronoa Zoro November 12, 2023 9:39 pm
    oh yes also thank you for being so understanding i felt so seen haha hachi leaf

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