I just binged this. On chapter 179

Did we read different stories? I love Tia's conviction, first of all, she came back to be the family head. She wasn't even in love with Perez originally. Perez needs to become the emperor, and Tia does NOT want to become Empress, she wants to become her own person. BUT this is just my guess, when Perez becomes Emperor, he will just make it to a republic thus not needing for Monarchy. Less creative route would be, he becomes Emperor and his first Imperial Decree would be that Empresses can be the Family Head XDD

Characters have their own motivations, and while the Webtoon has been going on for a bit, I hope you dont forget what Tia's reason for coming back. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Very well said. Just bc it has a romance plot doesn’t mean that that’s all it’s about. I hate it when ppl think that female leads HAVE to get married or accept another person as if she’s not allowed to have her own reasons for not wanting to be tied to a man. She wants to be the head of her family not Perez’s wife not to mention the empress. It’s very obvious they like eachother and the tension is there but before all else tia puts herself and her family first which I LOVE and I think that’s exactly what makes this comic worth reading. There are 100,000 other comics out there were the FL falls in love and ignores her reason for having conviction just to be with a man and I hate the trope just as much as I love it. This comic is different and has depth and plot. She doesn’t need a man no matter how much she likes him. She could accept him and still not want to marry him or be with him and I would be happy ash with that BECAUSE it means she is still tia. It would be fkn crazy if we got all the way to chapter 200 of her having the same drive and goal just to throw it all away and be changed by a crown. Idk if bro even read this frl bc her romance with Perez is NOT the point of the comic or the reason tia does what she does. If you want a comic where theFL give sin and throws her second life away to make a stupid decisions and give in to a man’s will to throw away her status and character then I have a list of them I can give u

i think u should read on or REREAD to fully grasp tia’s/the story’s main purpose here…tia’s main goal was NEVER romance and in fact it’s to become the head of the family…and that’s literally what’s she’s been trying to do this entire time and she does NOT let romance stray her off of it. moreover, she has a solid reason to keep “rejecting” perez and that’s becuz of the rule that the empress cannot be the head of a family at the same time…and if tia drops everything to marry perez and become empress, she’s basically betraying the lombardy family. and it’s kinda crazy how u don’t understand this becuz i think this very reason for her pushing perez away is a very good way to truly show tia’s conviction, her very deserving of the lombardy head, and such a STRONG female character.

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Did you not read the reason? A person can’t be an empress/emperor and be the head of the family at the same time. They do like each other, but their end goals clash with each other. I think you skimmed over that part

Perhaps I did skim over it or I haven’t reached the part where that is explained.

With all due respect, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for me to way ROMANCE in a ROFAN NOVEL. You don’t need to be so condescending and rude. Of course I understand her main purpose! It’s just annoying to me that she keeps rejecting a man she truly likes! Do they have to marry each other to be together?? No! Irregardless of that fact, they are going to end up married anyway.

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I think some of you are missing my point. I'm NOT saying Tia should abandon her goals or that I forgot why she came back. I KNOW she wants to be family head, that's literally her main motivation and I haven't forgotten that. So now I know she can’t be family head/empress…

My issue is this: Why does wanting to be family head mean she HAS to reject Perez? These two goals aren't inherently incompatible. And if the ONLY obstacle is "Empresses can't be family heads," then that's a systemic barrier that can be changed, and to me, not a legitimate character motivation for rejection!

If the rule can be changed (which is something that Perez will obviously do/it will be changed), then Tia rejecting him NOW is just unnecessary angst. She's creating a problem that doesn't need to exist.
If she genuinely doesn't want to be Empress, okay, but that's a conversation they should HAVE. Not her unilaterally deciding "we can't be together" without even discussing alternatives. What if Perez doesn't want a traditional Empress role for her? What if he'd support her being family head? We don't know because she won't communicate!

Like the whole "crossing the line" excuse is simply vague and frustrating! Right now it just feels like manufactured drama.

To be clear: I'm not saying she should drop everything for romance. I'm saying a smart, strategic character should be able to figure out how to pursue BOTH her ambitions AND her relationship, or at least have an actual conversation about it! Her "conviction" would be more admirable if it was based on something concrete rather than what feels like an arbitrary choice!

Yes, Perez will change it and assures her there’s nothing to worry about.. which is exactly what they ALSO talked about on the same chapter where Tia mentioned that a person can’t be both a family head and empress Tia doesn’t even reject his advances anymore, her ‘rejections’ and ‘reminders that it’s a contract’ seems more like flirting for them now than actual rejection. She didn’t even allow Perez to dissolve their contract you DID mention that you probably skimmed over her reason, so I guess you also skimmed over the part where they talked about it. I think they’re currently focusing on finishing up their goals rather than their relationship. I’ve read the novel anyway, it’s gonna be fine.

Nope. I was not talking about her reason I was talking about the can’t be empress/and head of family part. I either skimmed over it or didn’t read that chapter because as stated in my topic title, I’ve only read up to chapter 179. I haven’t even reached the chapters you’re talking about.

The last chapter I read was when her and Perez went to meet the empress and Perez was telling her something like don’t hide your feelings (don’t quote me, I vaguely remember), and she was being cold to him suddenly. It annoyed me and so I made this comment.

Omg I just realized by reasoning you are not talking about her motivations, you’re talking about reasoning why she can’t be empress/head of house. My bad.

First off there is romance, what you’re expecting is for her to accept him and cave in and ultimately be with him risking her whole purpose. You’re the one being rude in your initial comment. Just bc it’s a slow burn or the romance is delayed doesn’t mean there is 0 romance as you’re insinuating. I think there is a perfect amount of romance in this novel, and like you said it’s NOT a romance novel. I hope you understand where your words fell off, bc if you’re saying we are wrong and the majority of us came to the same co closing leading you as the minority, it’s clearly bc your words or your communication had a clear disconnect. You either said what you said or you’re covering your ass for being wrong by rewording what you were saying, and in which case that means you rly just want to argue when your comment is right there and clear as day. Don’t go back on your words bc you feel as if you are being attack. Also, you definitely skimmed the most important part bc the information we are providing you with was literally in the first 1-10 chapters and you said you were on 170 something no? I think you should reread or drop the comic. It’s truly worth the read and just bc there is a slow burn does not take away from its overall value. If this isn’t your speed I encourage you to try something else. There are soooo many other comics that fit what you are looking for in the site. And I also encourage you to think twice about what you put onto paper or into words because I would assume you’re not dumb and can reread your own comic to understand where the miscommunication is between all parties.

1. "What you're expecting is for her to accept him and cave in and ultimately be with him risking her whole purpose."
No. I'm expecting her to communicate with him like an adult instead of unilaterally shutting him down. Being in a relationship ≠ giving up her goals. That's a false dichotomy.
2. "Just bc it's a slow burn or the romance is delayed doesn't mean there is 0 romance as you're insinuating."
I never said there's zero romance. I said her REASONING for rejecting him is frustrating and feels contrived. There's a difference between a slow burn (which develops naturally) and manufactured angst (which creates unnecessary obstacles).
3. "You're the one being rude in your initial comment."
My initial comment was expressing frustration with a FICTIONAL CHARACTER’S choices. I wasn't rude to any real person until people started condescendingly telling me to "reread" as if I'm too stupid to understand a basic plot point.
4. "If you're saying we are wrong and the majority of us came to the same conclusion leading you as the minority..."
Appeal to majority isn't an argument. Plenty of people can share an opinion and still miss the point of someone's criticism. I'm not saying you're "wrong" to like Tia's choices, I'm saying I find them frustrating and poorly justified.
5. "You either said what you said or you're covering your ass for being wrong by rewording what you were saying."
I've been consistent. My issue has ALWAYS been that her rejection feels unjustified given that the obstacle (the Empress rule) is changeable and they don't even need to marry RIGHT NOW to be together. You're accusing me of backtracking because you misunderstood my original point.
6. "You definitely skimmed the most important part bc the information we are providing you with was literally in the first 1-10 chapters."
I didn't skip anything. In the first 10 chapters, it never stated anywhere that she can’t be both empresss/head of Lombari. It was just established she wants to be the head. Knowing her goal ≠ agreeing that her goal justifies her romantic choices. Stop conflating "understanding the plot" with "agreeing with character decisions."
7. "I also encourage you to think twice about what you put onto paper or into words because I would assume you're not dumb..."
This is incredibly patronizing. I expressed a negative opinion about a story's romantic subplot. That's normal! f you can't handle people criticizing a fictional character without getting this defensive, maybe YOU should think twice about engaging in online discussions.
To be crystal clear one final time: I understand Tia's goal. I understand the rule about Empresses. My criticism is that a supposedly intelligent character is treating this like an unsolvable problem instead of something that can be negotiated, worked around, or changed. That's my opinion. You don't have to agree with it, but stop acting like I'm illiterate for having it.
I'm done with this conversation. You all can enjoy the story your way, and I'll have my opinions.

From what I recall they are actually engaged. The original plan was to have someone else marry the crown prince, but her heart belonged to another who is of foreign royal. Tia helped her escape from her room and took her place to be engaged to the royal family. She still wants to be head of the family so there is a possibility that they might break it off. I’m not certain about that part but I remember they got her grandfather’s permission on it