So, you're basically saying that people can't criticize fiction because it's fiction? As long as it's fiction everyone has to approve of everything and love single bit of it? Your logic here makes as much sens as yaoi logic...
Fiction offers a certain vision of the world (yes, even when it's about vampires and werewolves because everything created by humans intrinsically has to do with our reality, we can't transcend that), if that vision or it's narrative clashes with someone's beliefs, morals or simply their rationality they are allowed to disapprove. Bending to the "will of fiction" is just retarded and reading anything with any form of mental filter/lens makes no sense. If you need special goggles to appreciate something, you're not really appreciating it you see...
If you don't like seeing others get into heated "fanwar" arguments don't read the comment section on a freaking aggregator website filled with netizens... You're just annoyingly ranting like everyone else you know?
That's not what they are saying. I agree with Xaefyre at the end of the day this is fiction. If it were real life it is completely unacceptable and I'm sure no one here supports rape. But this is fiction and again it is unacceptable in their world however some people are acting like this manga and the majority of yaoi Mangas as supporting rape. I'm sure if you ask yaoi Mangas, mist if not all would say they don't support rape.
Also some people not everyone but some people are complaining multiple times about the rape scenes in different chapters and if they are so against reading it they don't need to continue. There was basically a rape scene in like the first 3 chapters but people who complained then are stilll complaining 15 chapters later. If you don't like it don't read it. You could tell right from the first few chapters where thus was going but some people are still here.
Every time I read a chapter I come to the topic section hoping to hear people's thoughts on the chapter as in what shocked them and wat they found interesting however every time I go to this section it's people arguing about either who's right and who's wrong or people spoiling or not spoiling and it's getting ridiculous can we not all just enjoy this manga or if we don't enjoy just don't read it. It's really that simple. Please guys lets just all enjoy reading this manga.
@Irony darling
....said someone who rants a lot..pft.
Z snaps and hitting that replay button a hundred times because this needs to be said.
You can criticise anything if you want and everyone is entitiled to their own opinion. But there is being critical, and then theres engaging in fanwars which nobody likes. If you dont like something and u want to complain abt it, sure, go ahead. But if u chose to stay and complain each and every single time abt the same old points, then clearly its time to leave. Its fiction. Im not saying u cant get upset over fiction. Its just that theres no point getting so worked up and forcing urself to stay over it. Surely its come to a point where we're all tired of reading abt whether hyesung or dojin is in the wrong. This "debate" has been dragging on for so long alr and all i wanted was to see some spoilers for chp 22 when it came out. I usually stay off the comment section precisely to avoid all these fanwars but hey, new chp = me want spoilers. And seeing how its still filled with fanwars can be very tiring.
Just saying, but every thing you read, see, hear or even taste is all up to ur own interpretation. We can all interpret the scenes differently and thats valid. If i need some yaoi goggles on, i think thats valid too. Otherwise, id be yelling all the time abt something when reading yaoi. Rape is a common trope and im sick of it and if its not something i can just close both eyes to, ill leave. Even in more consensual scenes, theres still a lot of dub con too. Without my yaoi goggles, ill be yelling abt safe sex, rmb to prep, lube, use a codom, and clean your genitalia if anyone is going down on u. Also, rmb aftercare and safewords if u engage in bdsm or any not so vanilla sex. Also, always discuss it through before too. And clean up aft because nobody likes cum drying in their hair. So u feel me? I need them goggles. If not im not going to be able to appreciate them fiction. Because often enough, authors dont go to these more boring details and skip them all together. But im just gonna close both eyes to that. Am i still appreciating it? Well, i feel satisfied so... im gonna have to say yes.
And hey, its just one post offering a fresh perspective compared to the sea of "oh dojin raped hyesung" or "hyesung forced himself and hes attitude is terrible" or "dojin is so nice and he shld leave hyesung". So i feel im allowed this little rant.
Man, this place is toxic af. For a yaoi manga, this is alr on the less problematic end of the scale alr. Idk if yall are like fresh yaoi fans or what but like ive been in this yaoi life for 7-8 yrs alr and the large majority of yaois out there have some element of rape. Literally, the only pure and healthy yaoi that comes to mind is honto yajuu. And also, the poor dumb/naive tsundere girl/uke is a really common trope in kdrama so... like i guess im just desensitised to the problematic actions of the seme and uke? Dojin and hyesung both have their problems and theyre not fking real. So, my little 2 cents is this. By rule of thumb, only read yaoi when u have rose tinted yaoi goggles on and rmb that this is all FICTION. The mangaka isnt going to split the couple up. Thats pretty obvious. Also, if u read fargo's other manhwa, you'll realise that dojin was literally created for hyesung so... if u aint game for this ship then its time to say bye bye. Also, personally, i think fargo really likes hyesung? From their twitter, i get that vibe. So... lets all stop bitching over dojin and hyesuns faults, k? Me just wants to see some objective spoilers here. Not some "fanwar" over the seme and uke.