ikr??? I don't understand why it's like this and even if some people say we should separate fantasy and real life, some behaviours depicted in yaoi mangas shouldn't be tolerated or praised. Yaoi and shounen ai are just the genres for boy's love, it doesn't mean rape or abuse. Though it's true that we should complain in other mangas that are far far worse than this. I don't think 19 days deserves this.
So going this way of thinking we also shouldnt make movies about murders, about wars and any other pathologies? Because there should only be some moral and didactic stuff?
Hmm?
What does it even mean that author praise rape or abuse. When you portray/ write about smt it doesnt mean that you agree with it and support it.
You tell a story. And that's it.
The big difference is that in a crime movie, they mostly doesn't "praise" the murders actions. When the murderer kills someone, it's displayed as something awful not something that leads to a happy ending.
In yaoi however, you see a lot of happy endings after rape like the uke realizing that he likes the seme after the rape or just accepts the action like it was nothinh for example. And honestly this happens way too often in yaoi!
So comparing it to movies with crimes or war is just stupid. Have you ever seen a rape scene in a movie were the victim is dancing happily the day after?
I dont think that's what they ment we are not talking about moives or any other form of media not every movie has rape, sexual harassment, murder or ect. But the yaoi genre especially has a lot of those things in it and anyone whoes read yaoi for a while has notice rape or sexual harassment/assault is a popular plot device which I dont understand why. I know that yaoi is very sex base and I know rape fantasy is kink for some people and I know that doesn't mean they support it in real life. Rape fantasy is not for everyone and I'm sure even those who like the rape fantasy dont want see it all the time. It really gets Exhausting to see it everywhere I just feel that we dont always have to go down that road.
P.s. I don't think 19 days falls into this category for most part 19 days is a super cute story about dumb teenage boys trying to figure out their lives.
Why do I see a complaining about rape stuff under 19 Days? Do you even realize what you read?
He Tian is molesting an unconscious guy who can't say no and everybody here is thinking is either funny or cute and you think that 'some behavior depicted in Yaoi manga shouldn't be tolerated' but He Tian openly doing something so creepy and readers finding it so amazing is no big deal? Okay then.
Wtf are you talking about? Have you even read 19 days? There isn't Reno rape shit in it only gangs shit thst makes the story more interesting.
Are you sure you commented on the right book or am I missing something? ???
Exactly, I agree with you completly. It should be taken more seriously, a lot of time the guy treats the other like shit and rapes him and then the other one falls in love like it was nothing. I'm not saying those topics shouldn't appear in mangas, but they should be given more thought.
Yeah, it's exactly as you are saying. It's a problem in general with a lot of yaoi mangas, a lot of them portray really unhealthy relationships and sometimes it's hard to realize about that. I would even say it's kind of misogynistic too in some cases. But, well, thankfully, not all yaoi mangas are like that.
And, yeah, 19 days doesn't really fall into that category.
Yes, I honestly don't mind it so much anymore, but like someone said before it's way too common in manga and especially in yaoi and starting to be a norm which is just sad.
After Mo started crying when He Tian forced that kiss onto him and then didn't stop to go after Mo and force himself onto him, there was a line crossed for me. I don't like them as a couple, He Tian feels really manipulative. Sure it's always overshadowed by the cleverly input scenes where he is suddenly soo compassionate and caring about Mo and shit. But those really feel off to me after he treated him like shit a lot. I mean yeah, maybe he notices he has some feelings for Mo but it won't suddenly make him less of a manipulative (also overpowered) asshole and romanticizing that is just kind of disgusting. I loved reading the story of Jian Yi and Xixi because they weren't so typically Yaoi with one always being after the other so much and forcing himself on him until the other magically falls for him because he is... yeah what? A total dick? Yeah, that's the reason you fall for someone, sure.
I know this is fiction so it really those not bother much especially in 19 days cause it's mostly stuff that stupid teenagers do to each other. but my problem is that as a whole the yaoi genre is full of rape, dickish borderline abuse semes and sexual harassment its EVERY. I know for some people it's a kink and that's fine no one is kink shaming anyone here. But doesn't it get old that sexual assault or borderline abuse behavior is used to push a story EVERY time. This type of behavior is everywhere and I am just tired of seeing it.