On to Wataru

hunterx2 March 8, 2019 4:51 am

I can acknowledge that he was horrible but he honestly has the best chance of redemption out of this group. He can turn a new leaf. He can become a better person by simply changing how he talks to people. He may have done spiteful things to Rina after finding out she cheated and he was verbally abusive before then but it's not like he hid who he was or took advantage of Rina. Furthermore, even after being cheated on, he could have been worse tbh. And I know that's a bad scale to go by but considering what he could have done, he kept things pretty civil. It's been made clear that no one else ever told him that he can't act how he was and seeing his sister be how she is, I'd bet he has his reasons for being so harsh though treating Rina how he did was bad and wrong.

With all things considered he could easily fix how he treats other and how he speaks and just generally be a good person. Rina never tried to get him to change though. If she had put the effort that she put into her schemes into leaving or confronting Wataru and working on having a healthier, happier relationship then we all know that she would have had results considering how elaborate her plans were. So on that front, I felt like it was a tiny bit unfair for Azu to say what she said without acknowledging that because one thing that you could tell was that Wataru did have real feelings for Rina. Especially because if you fix how he talks to people, that's his only flaw. Maybe I'm being too easy on him but I just feel like he could easily start learning healthier ways to communicate.

Responses
    Hiyori97 March 9, 2019 7:00 am

    Exactly! Im glad someone think that too

    Tolly March 21, 2019 1:50 am

    Yes you're being too easy on him bc you're making psychological abuse seem like something naive from someone who just has problems communicating instead of a man who controlled Rina and only wanted her like that. Did you forget how she misinterpreted his pathological jealously as love and when she realized it wasn't like she was already married yo him and had kids which left her in a bad position bc despite having a job she was still economically dependent on him and had the less chances than him to get custody of her kids, actually we already saw how he used his kids to get revenge on her, classic him. Immature and petty.

    hunterx2 March 21, 2019 5:31 am
    Yes you're being too easy on him bc you're making psychological abuse seem like something naive from someone who just has problems communicating instead of a man who controlled Rina and only wanted her like tha... Tolly

    She would definitely have had more chances of getting custody if she hadn't cheated and statistically, she would still have a higher chance of ending up with the children in a court of law. And sadly, psychological abuse can sometimes be more the result of naivete, a lack of awareness, or nurture than malicious intent. Wataru is very immature and petty. I completely agree that he is but that's not a horrible thing to be and one can easily grow from that. Add on to that that he isn't wrong in saying that cheating can be reflective of a lack of care for your children. Rina had the choice of divorce and she didn't want to choose it until she had Junpei. It was not an ideal position to be in but even in Japan, if she had filed then she would have been likely to end up with full custody and good child support and Wataru wouldn't have had much against her in court but she cheated instead. Also, Rina's misinterpreting Wataru's jealousy as love only really support's the idea that Rina can't read any emotions well since she also believed Junpei was madly in love her for no good reason. She just can't read emotion at all.

    Tolly March 21, 2019 11:54 am
    She would definitely have had more chances of getting custody if she hadn't cheated and statistically, she would still have a higher chance of ending up with the children in a court of law. And sadly, psycholog... hunterx2

    If you're going to bring reality into this then I can't even argue with you bc despite Rina cheating in real life she still have more chances to get her children (being the mother and the kids being so young) and child support though then again Wataru is the one with money that seems that doesn't even care about his children bc he prefers to leave them with a mother that actually doesn't seem like she neglected them and loves them too.
    Poor communication leading to abuse... yeah you should look up into that one. Slandering isn't even close to that.
    Rina doesn't realizing that isn't love isn't even something pathological since it's so common in that kinda cultures and environments. So it's not something to take in regards in the terms you put it. You should look more into too.
    It seems that when people here point out that Wataru was a little shit you automatically think that Rina isn't. That isn't the case so putting fault into Rina isn't going to make Wataru look less bad honestly.

    hunterx2 March 21, 2019 4:28 pm
    If you're going to bring reality into this then I can't even argue with you bc despite Rina cheating in real life she still have more chances to get her children (being the mother and the kids being so young) a... Tolly

    I never denied Wataru being bad. I stated that realistically, he was easily redeemable while Rina was not and nothing has been put forth to change that. Verbal abuse can absolutely be the result of poor communication skills or a lack thereof. It has time and time again been the result of children being raised in harsh environments. Sometimes it can come from those who are on the spectrum who never received proper care or those who lack the experience to build the social skills to know better. As children, you learn where your boundaries are with speech and some people never really are taught those boundaries. That doesn't mean that what they go on to do isn't bad but it is something that can easily be changed.

    Someone going to the lengths Rina did to try and secure Junpei though... manipulative, crazy, and abusive. A different beast. When Wataru brought his children into the mix, he thought that he could use them to force Rina to change, apologize ,and come back. Horrible but the intent was to just get his wife back. Rina on the other hand, called Azu and spoke to her child calling herself her new mommy. That's just crazy with no other intent behind it. Plus, Rina only cared about her children when she wasn't going after Junpei but Wataru just left his children to his wife because that's what a lot of working father's do. Again, that's something that can easily be fixed because at his core, he's not crazy!