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fr i read thru the 4th chapter earlier today and i just re-read it bc why not and it kinda hit heavier/sadder :(

i mean he's controlled not much by passion but the need to actually have sexual intercourse to maintain his yang energy, especially in this situation when he had given all his pills to San and Yama kinda refused to give him some more. but yeah it's still rape.

I don’t what excuses are made in the end they’ll love each like every other garbage BL. I’ve been reading this genre for over 10 years and I literally stay because of the occasional gem and the fact it’s one of the few sources of visibly queer content, but I truly am starting to hate BL at this point and is love of all things rape. I can go the front page of mangago right now and over 75% of the top BL would include some sort of abuse. If wouldn’t even have to make a bet it would just be a fact.

I’ll have to give it a retry the first time i read a few chapters I felt it wasn’t for men

Men = ‘me’ god my phone is terrible at these auto guess typos today.

Excuses? Miss it's the story setting. Open ur eyes and see what u read. He was in need for it. She said its rape. No one's denying it. Fucking drop it instead of writing bullshit in comment section. Drop bl in case u r so disappointed. Bl actually got this idea outta straight stories as a matter of fact. Can't u see the rest of the plot? How good it is? U just come to read rape and type horse shit. Ya just one of those banner girls freaking out at a fiction. No one supports rape. Not even the authors who write these. But I see u banner girls everywhere. Just who r u against? Don't fucking read it, if u can't see the rest of the plot and all u type is bloody rape in comment sections.

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/yuki_to_matsu/ http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/like_a_tidal_wave_from_pheromone_shower/

if you havent read these two stories i feel like you may like them (especially the first one since the second one is a bit cliche). your opinions about stories are harsh but they're real and i respect that

Adore the first the authors work is truly amazing. Gave up on the second suggestion. I don’t like omegaverse, but I’ll give anything the benefit the doubt because it’s not fair to judge a book by its cover. Read a few chapters and then it tuned into the same old omega and alpha dynamic, the omega’s entire personality to even the way he was drawn changed to reflect his submissive gender when it’s revealed he’s an omega when prior he was forceful, independent, and capable. Typical dubious consent/rape, damsel in distress, to many cliche tropes to count. Then not only does he almost exclusively bottoms (I think he tops twice) his entire demeanor changes as the plot progresses. It wasn’t bad, but it did nothing to change my opinion of omegaverse.But really thank you for the suggestions really.

Is it sad that I appreciate a work now for simply having a victim not falling in love with their rapist? Sigh.

BL is loved by many and it’s an amazing escape, even if the stories contain toxic elements (which many do). The top yaoi BL on the front page are highly loved by many because it’s the escape they are looking for and definitely not garbage since I can understand how hard these cartoonists/authors work for to then have their work be stolen. I also don’t like many of them but hey....it makes people come back.

But since you’re so bothered and make lots of comments on this, I really recommend LGBTQ novels which are also showcase visible queer content. Goodreads has lots of selections that showcase healthy and realistic LGBTQ stories. The people who review them really go in depth and will tell you if there is violence or abuse. There are also queer comics by European and American people, many of them also show healthy/realistic relationships.

Slice of Life BL tags also showcase healthier relationships.

You forgot that the top BL are visually stunning. The artists are talented.

No one disputing the visual talent rather almost all of the top BL contain romanticized rape.

My comment was more so I reply to why those are in the top as well. I agree that many do have romanticized rape, hence why I think these websites shouldn’t be around. If you want to read to read fantasy rape, buy it. People who buy it probably pay their bills and have a sense of reality.

Fair enough.

Yes, I have a love-hate relationships with mangago and free/accessible websites like mangago.

I don’t think they’re gonna have sex now tho hm, based on how the story and character development. I think if he really have amnesia, it’s more so to get big boss more attached to Mongryeong. Maybe to go more in depth of the latter past life too / personality. Also to let us see more of the good side of big boss (can’t remember his name for gods lord) like how he’s gonna feel guilty to have sex with a possible mentally 15 years old who’s all cute and thinking he’s his lover etc.
Anyway If they really do have sex at that moment that’d be really disappointing indeed haha.

i keep reading this, but could care less for there messed up relationship. the news segment was basically what azusa did.

Maybe it's because as soon as Ichi realized Bena wasn't an animal (which seemed relatively quick) he started treating him as a person and maybe he also realized that Ichi was similarly trapped there and abused???

Exactly lol. Its not hard to get.

did u not read anything? it ain’t that hard.

And because it not that hard to get is why I’m questioning it. Just because every other BL has someone falling in love with someone who’s abused them at some point doesn’t mean a normal person should expect that. But who am I kidding reading BL I should expect love to prosper no mater the circumstances.

Your reactions show just how much your desensitized to thinking this is “fine”. clearly this plot isn’t for me.

i’m not saying what he did was okay but it’s obvious that the guy show him as a person and helped him. don’t put words in my mouth.

saw**

Agreed, if this were real life. I just pin it as fantasy and leave it as that. This is an omegaverse manga after all; things often don’t make a whole lot of sense. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

idk which one ur talking bout cause they both fit the bill hahaha(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Oh crap you’re right. The difference is whether it’s a cinnamon roll or a sinnamon roll

Blondie fits that description, brunette on the other hand is more like someone trying to boost his ego trough his actions due to his past, we can see how hard to works to seem "perfect" in front of others

arguably that can be seen as someone being fake, and manipulating other people's perception of them to seem better than they actually are loool.

There's no need to associate realism to this manga since it isn't near to reality in the first place.(〜￣△￣)〜

I’m thinking that’s part of the reason why this manga didn’t sit right with me. I finished it and didn’t hate but didn’t like it either it’s a weird feeling

But why? They aren't wrong!
The only reasoning we got for the killing was that Godai's family was killed by beast folks. That's all. Therefore the logic of the plot remains!

lol everyone getting mad that I just called out this plot for what it is.

No need to bring that up....

exactly this was the same thing i was thinking like how does it even work?? "i hate and kill all your species but ur special" like ???

Cringe af lmao

I mean it’s one thing to love a racist who’s change and another that’s changed after murdering your people and making excuses “you’re one of the good ones” enough to fuck you. Like you must truly lack any once of self worth and self respect to desire someone like that. But I mean he’s “hot” so that negates everything.../

ounce *^

I don’t get why this comment has so many dislikes.... like u literally didn’t state anything wrong lmao. this plot made me scratch my head

So many simps lol

Ethnic cleansing? Ethnic cleansing....where? Did we read the same story or did I miss out a genocide.

Also it's yaoi, you should be reading it with your brain turned off and just enjoy the process. No need to connect to real life shit. That just ruins the fun.

right, lol ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Yes, we are simps because were reading yaoi manga. Instead of blatantly critisizing a YAOI manga for its plot, why don't you go search for some good novels that have some plausible and reasonable plot?(〜￣△￣)〜

Since we’re*

Lmao, imagine plot in yaoi. I think the best place to find it is in shounen ai. Definitely not yaoi. Plot is more of a pleasant surprise than something to beexpected from yaoi.

Lol I get you trust me. Tbh most of the time I’m not reading for the plot lolol. But you can’t deny that sometimes you’ll be reading a yaoi and go “wait....what?” and have one of those confused meme faces. I don’t think voicing that is a bad thing so I can understand what the original poster was getting at.

Oh yeah, there are definitely one of those, this yaoi is on the tamer side of things though, other than the deaths, everything is treated lightheartedly and the ending is happy-ish . I mean, this isn't the first time I've seen a plot like this...like--gang fights and territories and shit with the uke stuck in the middle....but I guess this is the first one with beast vs humans involved...but what's weird is that people are quick to accuse one side of racism(the humans) when the beast side is also guilty of it.. that double standard is what irks me tbh with these sort of comments on this story. Like--its pretty obvious the mistreatment of both sides are equally shitty. We're just quick to accuse one side because that's where the story is focused on. Even though there were plenty of hints the other side is just as horrible(even enslaving the chimera/*mixed race")

Exactly, i thought about that too. The original post pictured the plot from one perspective and not from the other side. And still, if we think about it, the beasts were not that of a peaceful and pure species (one tried to cut off the mc's tendones, lol). If we ever immagine the situation from the pov of Godai-san, it'll turn out to be completely different from what the first post assumed. And that's what was lacking in her/his assumptions: if you ever have to state something, you shouldn't overlook the possibility of existence of two parties. (●'◡'●)ﾉ

The reasoning still doesn’t work because this isn’t just a case of being raised to be prejudice and learning to change. Even from Godai‘s point of view he hated beasts enough to kill them on sight. But somehow a beast that has been in close proximity all this time lying to him about their identity just happens to be hot enough for him to want to fuck? Then upon learning the truth it’s this action of his love interest being at least half human is enough to make him realize not al beasts are bad it’s still ridiculous. It’s the utter shallowness of the plot and ignoring Godai’s own past actions. It’s equating a wrong plus a wrong is right and so if your argument. With Godai’s background and shallow personality Yuki has placed himself in the most dangerous situation he could possibly be, the precarious position of his lie putting him in direct proximity with a man who’s unknown reaction to said lie could mean his death. The very lack of self preservation that goes out the window because of Godai’s shallow attention on Yuki, that all this time Yuki has firmly relied on keep him safe, makes Yuki’s decision beyond idiotic from any perspective. I’m not disputing that beasts and humans alike were not saints in their dislike for one another that’s besides point and anyone reading the plot should be smart enough to see that. But the fact is, it doesn’t who’s perspective you look at, Yuki’s desire for Godai a person who he knew absolutely nothing about other than two absolutes, Godai was a fuckboy and a beast killer, is what makes Yuki look so truly pathetic. Yuki was willing to put himself in a position at the mercy of a man he knew nothing about who’s acted on his hatred of his species without impunity. That’s not something a rational person does there’s no argument for that.

I'm sorry, but i still don't get what you want to argue about. You have your point of view and I am still not conviced of it at all. One of the things I am pretty sure about is that they love each other not matter the circustances. So yeah, my best regards and farewell buddy.

I commented on what I saw were in inconstant character motivations. You decided to complain among others in me bringing this up. It’s not my problem if you’re convinced or not, others have seen my point and even agree with it. If you like the plot the same why should my opinion change that? I’ve given reason and evidence to the issue with the plot if you choose to ignore them, it’s not going to change your experience, but saying they “ love each other” is just enough to ensure a happily ever after it’s not enough to explain the plot holes of the plot. Again if that’s enough for you to enjoy it, we clearly have different thresholds. Adieu.

Sorry to say but you and everyone who agrees with you really didn't call out the plot at all about this story being about racism at all, you and those people just tried to put racism in it which it doesn't have anything to do with it. You might as well call out nearly every series that have a plot of people fearing and hating others because of how inhuman or different they are (I don't know how else to say it), and you might as well start calling out naruto for killing the clans off who were feared and hated by many because of their inhuman strength and abilities or Tokyo ghoul because they are people who eat human flesh or other series like it. It literally has the same take of fearing others because they aren't normal humans who are much stronger, and the characters can turn into beasts that can easily kill a normal human if they wanted (kind of like Tokyo ghoul in a way with the hate and looking at them as beasts and the kill). The only series that I have seen with actually dealings with racism is Code Geass between the Japanese and Britannia. So no you and everyone are wrong. And I'm saying this as a young mixed black girl who loves reading manga and watching anime and been watching anime since I was a baby thanks to my dad and his brothers stop throwing racism around in this manga because it really isn't.

You’re point literally makes no sense. None of examples you’ve provided has to do with someone sleeping with someone who’s actively trying to kill those like them nor have those examples placed themselves in a situation which could leave them dead if the plot went in a direction that love doesn’t cure all as all BL does. And you’re personal experience is valid but my analogy of racism obviously is because we do not have a society that is segregated by species. If you clearly can’t understand that basic comparison you’re just being obtuse. If you choose to like this plot there’s n wrong with that as well as of choose to keep its fictional plot within its confines that’s fine too. However there are plenty of fictional stories that are analogous to reality and provide fictional metaphors whether it’s by Dr. Seus to Harry Potter. That’s just basic reading comprehension.