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its basically like "ok he realized his mistake now, why bother bring it up again?" well his job make her wife the way she is. i think she just need love and she didnt get it from her husband before. shes a mess because of him so yeah why not upset about him as we upset about the wife? theres no smoke without fire no? everything happen for a reason

ummm no..it wasn't really his job that made her like that. Yes instead of trying to figure out for himself how to handle his marriage and type of job that he does, he listened to someone else and then realized it didn't have to be that way. Sure she needs love but that's not what she went to look for now is it?? She's not dating chicken boy, they're getting busy b/c Ha-Jin wouldn't. She's a nympho, Ha-Jin didn't cause that, he just gave her a reason to look for sex somewhere else. If she felt like her entire marriage was so bad she could've filed for a divorce. I've never claimed Ha-Jin was not partly responsible for her actions, my point was the reason behind his. He didn't act the way he did b/c he didn't love her

yep as i mean to say is that his job is the first cause of all this mess. she looks like those type of woman who only the one she love to love her back and since she cant get it she turn to find sexual thing as a sign that someone like her is still desirable, maybe its come from a person but ha jin action did trigger it all. she at first see
s reluctant to cheat but as time goes by, by that i mean all those event like she seeing ha jin "so close" to his subordinate she become more and more careless and find pleasure elsewhere. I didnt say what she do is right but Ha jin is a bad husband is a fact the same as she a shitty wife. they both a mess. why cant hate both?

btw i didnt mean his job cause it all, i mean his job trigger it all. its like one of the first cause. and yeah hes not responsible for her action but still thats what we labeled a bad husband as he cant take care of his own wife,etc etc. look theres a deep complex in this marriage if the mangaka wanna bring that up but sadly its not like that i guess. ha jin probably think he got it all under control but what about his wife? he didnt bother do his part of a job as a husband and all yet u expect the wife to be a perfect wife like that? especially since shes the one who feel that their marriage is not"under controlled" like ha jin think? why i think she have a thought like that : 1. ha jin didnt care about her. we can see she love him deeply and as i say above, its a big trigger. 2. ha jin didnt even bother take care of it since he think "shes stupid" shes just a tool. "theres a reason for that" do the wife know? she experience that kind of mistreated everyday in her marriage life so far and i do thnk she is stupid but oh well... and 3. ha jin didnt bother clear up misunderstanding, like that time with his subordinate, the wife probably think, "he cheat on me too?" and become more and more careless as we can see shes become quite a slut who start to enjoy sex more. shes idiot for cheating instead of break this sick marriage up but well again shes stupid. and i still upset about ha jin too as much as i upset with the wife. i dont care about the "reason" he act like that, the damage is done. and the blame is on all peoplle

I had to go back and look at my first comment b/c you went so far off base from what I was trying to get across. My comment was in reference to those who felt like Ha-Jin was treating his wife like a whore/toy and confused as to why she would love him since he's a killer and acted the way he did. At the end I said they all need to get their s*** together meaning they're all messed up..your opinion about him not doing his job as a husband was already explained in the story. you can even say it's b/c he loves her that he acts the way he does in their marriage.. if he didn't care about her he wouldn't have to try and force himself to not bother w/ her, his senior wouldn't have had to tell him to cut off his emotions, him repeatedly telling himself that she is nothing is like him trying to brainwash himself. even still i never gave him a pass for treating her like such but i understand it. and since you "don't care" about the reason for his actions then that means you've already dismissed any kind of notion that he may have good intentions however wrong his methods are and therefore trying to convince you of anything otherwise would be useless. and i'll say again they all could've done better

uh yeah. I get it now. i guess i just caught up to when u say "why people hate ha jin?" cuz u know, i do. they all messed up as u said and so again i just want to say the damage is done. I learned from chapter by chapter that ha jin got a reason like u said but the damage is done, at this rate everytime i curse the wife for being such a slut, I have to remember her husband action have some contribution to that, i still hate them as long as this circle happen. u say he might got a good intention but as long as he cant fix marriage then i stil think have some dislike for him. If he fix his marriage either divorce or change to a be better might make me seeing him in a different light.

I see what you're saying and i think he will make a change though it may take a while since crazy lady is out for the wife's head..but if she succeeds in letting the cat out of the bag about her cheating he might flip on her instead too

sadly, there are selfish women like this. women who will keep their child from the father just to appease their own selfish feelings. im very grateful i have a mom who did everything she could to make sure my dad was around as i was growing up, and after their divorce.

Hmm... Satoru never really fit his profile since he targeted girls. I think it's definitely the start of another game of cat & mouse as he resumes kidnapping & murdering girls. Seems to me when Satoru 'died', it took away the satisfaction of killing, which is why he stopped his criminal activities while Satoru slept. He's happy to have Satoru play the role of a worthy foe and satisfy his need for bigger thrills. So he won't try to kill him anytime soon. But that's all just speculation (I totally forgot the killer's name. Oh well). ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Anyways, it's definitely becoming more exciting. Can't wait to see who comes up on top.

I agree that Satoru never fit his profile as though not bluntly stated it is hinted at that he's a pedophile that only targets girls. Hiromi was just a bluff and Satoru is because he's the one that got away. I think he didn't stop his crimes however, he just moved to other towns for targets. I think he kept killing even while Satoru was in a coma, because you can see many missing girls on the crime wall Ken'ya has, and the picture he picks up has '2001' under it, which is before Satoru woke up (2005-2006). But I could be wrong.

Right I totally wasn't thinking about the fact that Hiromi was just to divert attention from himself, and I also thought that he had continued on killing even after Satoru's accident. The reason I was wondering if he was going to try and kill Satoru is b/c one even though he doesn't remember yet, somewhere in his memories is the knowledge that the teacher is the killer and plus he went after Satoru's coworker (can't remember her name) just for seeing his face. But if he hadn't done that she probably would've never given him another thought for being suspiscious. Either way I can't wait to see how it progresses

Oh right, I didn't notice that. Thanks for pointing it out. You miss so much when chapter releases are spread far apart. I forget stuff and read too fast in my excitement. I believe you're right. The killer didn't stop while Satoru was under. And now that I think about it, it would be almost impossible for this type of serial killer to completely repress those impulses. He would probably act on them in some way, even if Satoru's 'death' made killing less exciting for awhile.