nathan is that one friend that's too woke
exactly he kinda pisses me off
bad bad idea
he's only making the misunderstanding worse
im gonna be a whole ass grandma by the time this is finished
Lolll yeah it's been like 6 years and all we have is 14 chapters
the scan is making me feel nostalgic
right this is what it used to look like reading manga
im in my freshman year of college and i feel so weird to be reading this theyre 15 year olds for gods sake
can grown ass authors start making more college and work place stories instead of high school ones
No literally why tf did 6 ppl dislike this
The way I forgot they were that young while reading the story
i forgot i was too old for this cuz i was their age when i first read it
weirdos...
So is every other high-school themed BL manga though
yah but drawinf them fucking and doing sexual things is pretttyyyyy weird
Maybe. But the intention matters. And as bad as this may sound, anime and manga have always been mostly about teens. Even the r18 ones. You can't ostracise this single mangaka when everyone is doing it the same way. And like I already said, intention matters. Based on the story, do you think the author made this because they wanted to see teen boys screwing? No. They wanted to make a cute story set in high-school. And they're a yaoi mangaka. Ofc there's sex in this. But it doesn't feel predatory because imo their intentions are clear. If you're uncomfortable with stuff like this, I suggest you avoid any BL manga set in high-school, unless it's labelled as shounen ai. Check the tags. Avoid the yaoi tag.
This should not be normal to you … just bc other mangakas do it, doesnt mean its normal dude .??? The author couldve made a cute story about teenagers without the sex yknow!! Like how paskim does it.
Sex isn't inherently a bad thing. I agree it shouldn't be normal, but most teen shows still show sex between teens. Euphoria for example. I'd say that is inherently worse as it features real people. And paskim? There are a million better examples you could have chosen as an example of a "cute story about teenagers" but you chose the manhwa where said characters beat up each other and are frequently toxic.These two are 1000 times a more healthy couple than that. All I was trying to say was, why are you surprised a YAOI manga has YAOI? avoid the yaoi tag with a high-school theme from now on, and you won't be uncomfortable. And I've been watching/reading anime and manga since I was 10. Unfortunately, a lot of things have become "normal" to me as a result. There are many things wrong with the anime and manga industry. Sex between two consenting teenagers in a cute story is not one of them.
Lol the characters might beat tf out of eachother but theres no age limit to that, no? Im sure this story couldve been cute without the smut too!
For sure! But our conversation seems to be going nowhere. It doesn't look like we'll see eye to eye on this. I would have a problem with this too of I sense this was predatory in any way. But in my opinion, it doesn't feel that way. And healthy sex between teenagers is just as important of a representation. But even I wouldn't wanna see it if it was real people acting it out. Drawings on a paper and real people acting has different nuances to it. But ofc, just because they're drawings on a paper, doesn't mean they can get away with drawing anything. Such as pedophilic content. But the characters in this story do not look like children, and it's all shown in a healthy and respectful way in my opinion. If you feel another way, that's understandable too. Hence why I was suggesting you things to look out for.
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And also, sure, violence does have age limits. Many things can be labelled as r18 cause of the violence. If you're trying to say teens fight, then by that logic, teens have sex too so what's your point? And encouraging violence among teenagers isn't a very good thing either. But these are two entirely different topics. Lost in the clouds and Golden Sparkle simply can't be compared because of how vastly different they are in terms of genre. BL is just a label to denote mlm.
They can't ne compared just on the basis that they're both BL. Their genres are different
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Suzumaru Minta also has a few other comics that feature adults. I suggest you check those out instead of this if this makes you uncomfortable. Cupid ni Rakurai is also a fave of mine among her other works and is simply a masterpiece, and you'd be missing out if you didn't read it, but it's also set in high-school so it probably wouldn't make you feel comfortable. You might like Koi wo suru tsumori wa nakatta though!
And you said this could be a cute story without the smut too . But, like, the whole premise is based on sex and masturbation so you should've stopped reading it then. It would be a completely different story if they took away the sex
Yeahhh i see what ur saying now ><! The characters r painfully cute, but I think the creator has a thing for making smutty stories set in school life in general, so I was a bit guarded
TEENS UNDER 18 SHOULDNT BE DEPICTED HAVING SEX BECAUSE irl thats child porn ! I know this isnt real life but it stills feels weird, bc if this were off paper then readers would be arrested realll quick
lollll thank u, ill give them a read! (▰˘◡˘▰)
BYE I WAS REPLYING THINKING THIS WAS ABOUT ANOTHER MANGA ╥﹏╥ i read something about school life about a dog shifter with a crazy amount of smut, and I commented abt how it was sorta weird, so I thought this was the thread abt it, sorry!
I get what you're saying but this is fiction, will you also say that to writers of serial killers? Teenagers on that age are extremely curious to sex, will you also tell those philosophers/psychologist that they're weird for saying "it's a norm for teenagers undergoing puberty to be curious about sex" because you're sounding really stupid to me. Both guys of this manga consented and the main theme is LITERALLY ABOUT MASTURBATING who teenagers don't masturbate on that fucking age? Look at me straight in the eye and tell me "I don't masturbate on that age" and I will believe you. "it's so weirdddd" then fuck off and read another manga.
im saying it’s weird to draw teenagers having sex, the act itself is not weird however! Murder in fiction and underage ppl having sex is very different btw. Idgaf if ur a teen and doing that, but to draw it happening and making an entire story based off of it is WEIRD.
God forbid somebody thinks it’s weird to draw teenagers having sex omg comparing it to murder is crazy
ppl need to stop doing mental gymnastics to support and defend weird shit
also i hate the "its fiction/theyre 2d" etc arguments like... that doesnt make it any less off putting
you wouldn't read a story about a mother and her son having sex or other more disturbing themes would you? it's still fiction though but that doesn't stop you from disliking it
EXACTLY. The fact that ppl argue against this logic will forever baffle me
I'm sorry if I ever came off as rude to you. I just wanted a discussion about it. Thank you for being so nice ^^ and have fun reading the other ones! Do let me know which ones you end up liking. Or maybe you can recommend me some as well? I like office romance a lot too! And uni romance! ^^
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/romance_but_not_romantic/ This is definitely one of my favs. Omegaverse with a green flag couple set in the office ^_^ i cannot recommend it enough, lmk ur thoughts!
Thank you for being so nice ^^ I'm sorry too if I ever came across as rude. Have fun reading the other ones! Do let me know if you end up liking any ^^
ppl see a concept like this and lose any critical thinking skills, they see anything with an interesting concept as this flawless work and dont see how cliché, underdevelopped, boring and messy it is
i thought this work was all over the place in an attempt to seem deeper and ive read way better mangas that dont tell the reader everything and were well executed and this wasnt one of them it was very lacking and didnt convey anything nor did it provide substance or a plot thrilling enough to let its other flaws slide
idk why im ranting sm its just that everyone praising it is so annoying
im not saying ppl cant enjoy it but pls stop overhyping it
No fr, like usually I like wacky and original works but this was not only weirdly paced but, gosh, them telling us literally everything without jut showing was so annoying I stopped after 3 chapters, world building was incomplete too- Art is great but the story was very flawed.
bold of you to assume people on here have critical thinking skills lol
LMAO real
Exactly bro
exactly lel, concept was cute, art was cute, thats it
Fr it was so bad I had to turn off my brain, I only finished it cuz I wanted to see if it'll get any better
this is the first time caesar has actually put me off
i wasn't weirded out even when he shot him or slit his own throat or drugged him but this is doing it for me idk why i find this the most disturbing thing hes done
Raping someone with a limp dick just to prove a point. That takes the cake damn