Canah UwU December 10, 2023 1:46 pm

Technically, Cosette isn't the one who killed mc, but rather it's the Duke and the kingdom. The Duke didn't do shit when his own daughter was about to be executive , he didn't even felt bad how his ex-wife died,
So I understand Cosette's character, but many people hate her and it's natural since she's the villain but imagine, just imagine the story started it Cosette's perspective or even the Real Cosette perspective, looking for revenge for the one who killed her mother.
Basically, I hate the grandfather and the Duke, Fucking shithead dudes

    轻轻落下来的叶子 December 14, 2023 1:08 am

    I think the author meant to write it as the duke had no choice. It was the kingdom or his family and that he chose the kingdom over his family in agreement to completely neutrality.

    The author didn't really do a good job of showing that tbh and the author only ever really implied it. But I'm 90% sure that they were going for that.

    By killing the MC, in a way, he's actually admitting that the MC is his daughter. Which means he does trust his wife, but he has to pick the choice that won't destroy the world. Honestly, by admitting she is his daughter, he's kind of foolishly admitting his um questionable love for her. I think that + Cosette's manipulation causes Keira's execution to show him in a really bad light, but I don't think that's entirely it.

    I don't know, but there is a ongoing thing in this um manhwa about honour in death. Like, Erez and Joseph both stating they would do anything for her and so on. Death isn't seen as the worst result, death in humiliation is. If you die honourably then it isn't considered a 'bad' death. It's pretty weird now, but it is something fairly common in books in general. Especially medival-style-fantasy ones.

    The only reason why it seems like an unfair death, is because we know Keira is the real one. That and her perspective skews things. She thinks she's the real one. She still thinks Cosette is the fake one. She doesn't consider the possibility that they are BOTH his daughters. Thereby, she never thought that she might be the cause of millions of deaths.

    There is this idea, in literature, about um post-honourable death, where people reflect on the hypocrisy of an honourable death. Like, why do we have to die for others? Is there a crime just for existing if your existence causes suffering? Sort of thing.

    In the culture portrayed by the manhwa, Erez literally says, death isn't viewed in the same way as humans because demons are a more power based structure. Power is connected to life and so on. Humans have a more thoughtful approach to life, which makes it so that they equally value their deaths and how they die. Like how some generations don't like be cremated and some don't like being buried.

    Which is probably why, the duke would have preferred Keira to be executed knowing that she was his daughter and that he would always recognize her as his daughter. At the same time, be it at the cost of him losing a daughter. He's equally dumb as his daughter.

    The duke of Edinburgh (?) is a piece of shit though.

    It's honestly pretty common in reincarnation manhwa to overlook the ex-past... they do it because the audience doesn't have the brains to be interested in a side character facing a personal dilemma that doesn't involve hot guys.

    Hmm… I See! ❤ January 15, 2024 4:17 am

    Cosette was manipulating the Duke! I think that’s what is implied up to chapter 117. … he wasn’t acting on his own volition; rather that’s the demon’s power she keeps attempting to use! Σ(  ̄□ ̄||)

    Canah UwU January 15, 2024 4:46 am
    Cosette was manipulating the Duke! I think that’s what is implied up to chapter 117. … he wasn’t acting on his own volition; rather that’s the demon’s power she keeps attempting to use! Σ(  ̄□ ̄|... Hmm… I See! ❤

    Oh my god!?? So Cossete was manipulating the Duke for ignoring thr mc even when she was a child!? So that's why the Duke ignore her or neglect her? Be fucking for real. The Duke is still a shitty father to his children nonetheless. He's a shitty person, a shitty husband

    轻轻落下来的叶子 January 15, 2024 7:32 am
    Oh my god!?? So Cossete was manipulating the Duke for ignoring thr mc even when she was a child!? So that's why the Duke ignore her or neglect her? Be fucking for real. The Duke is still a shitty father to h... Canah UwU

    The point I was making if you bothered to read it was that her father isn't a ducking stay at home father whose only job is to take care of his kids. He functionally runs an entire kingdom with millions of people. He's told one of his children will bring about ruin possibly kill everyone. Use half of your limited brain cells and ask yourself if the average idiot would be able to be a normal father. Everytime he looks at his kids he'll only think of the dilemma he faces. That maybe one day he'll have to execute this cute girl who he wants to love. Remember religion is basically absolute in this world so no he can't just refute everything.

    Honestly he's being highly irresponsible right now by being nice or mean to a specific daughter. He has to stay impartial or what he assumes is impartial for the sake of millions of people. That and Cosette been a eh-level manipulator of course he'd going to side with her. Not only that but Keira is really god forbid stupid in the first round. She's immature and lacks any level of wisdom as most kids are. So yeah her dad who is also a blockhead decidedly likes the 'mature'-playing-innocent Cosette. I don't know but these two are literally the same kind of stupid.

    Anyway his stone-like personality,prophecy,and not to mention the societal pressure on him to be the model duke makes him the perfect haelstorm for how he treated Keira.

    Do you really honestly think someone with that kind of pressure will be a good dad? Do you think they'll be able to be your ideal father without worrying and feeling guilty that they might be raising a catastrophe? Do you really honestly think someone who is a direct and straightforward as the idiot duke would be anything but cold and conflicted?

    Be ducking for real.

    He shouldn't have neglected his kid sure but at least we can agree that it's not without reason. Like I said,the author did a terrible job at expressing the political and social climate at the time. They made a good situation and I honestly don't think they even realized it which made it so that the dad's sudden change seemed odd.

    And no that moronic he should still be nice to his daughter doesn't apply to 99% of realistic humans. Humans make dumb decisions in dilemmas that have pros and cons - it's their nature. To judge someone singularly on how they treated someone without talking about the circumstance is like assuming something is an apple because you can see a red dot from 1000 m away. It could be a red truck in the middle of a car accident and you just called it an apple.

    He's a shitty dad for a real reasonable reason imo and it's not fair to even call him a shitty dad. Like the manhwa says he does regret it. IF YOU READ WHAT I WROTE then you'd know there are inconsistencies in his behaviour that suggest that he did want a good relationship with his daughter but he felt that his moral duty of protecting an entire kingdom overrode that - which as a leader is fair.

    I don't know how else I could possibly be more clear on why it's unfair to blame her dad and call her dad a completely awful person.

    And your pity of Cosette is ridiculous. So it's okay for her to drag someone completely innocent into her revenge plans, ruin their life and destroy the world for 'revenge' but it's not okay that the duke chooses to be impartial at the cost of his family's happiness if it means he might have a better chance of saving the entire kingdom? Alright.

    Cosette is pitiful but to compare the duke against Cosette is a stupid comparison. They don't even face the same problems??

    Canah UwU January 15, 2024 10:11 am
    The point I was making if you bothered to read it was that her father isn't a ducking stay at home father whose only job is to take care of his kids. He functionally runs an entire kingdom with millions of peop... 轻轻落下来的叶子

    No matter how many times you defended that shitbag dad and justify his actions, that doesn't change the fact that mc been through a lot. He regrets it? Sure but that doesn't mean all of what he did is written out. Be fucking for real, I pity the cossete who died at young baby and not the demon cossete, it's natural for demon to not care about innocent people, I didn't even compare them, I just hate the Duke like many of the people here who read the manhwa, it's funny how you're passionate about defending one's character who everyone hates on, Like it or not, accept it, Your justification is useless, i still hate him including that shitty grandfather, he's like the ML of abandoned empress and in the end the dumb mc chose to be with him cuz he has "reason" why he made the mc first life shittier.

    Hmm… I See! ❤ January 15, 2024 4:38 pm
    Oh my god!?? So Cossete was manipulating the Duke for ignoring thr mc even when she was a child!? So that's why the Duke ignore her or neglect her? Be fucking for real. The Duke is still a shitty father to h... Canah UwU

    No, no… I meant once Cosette appeared and went to live in the ducal mansion! It is obvious in chapter 70 that she was attempting to use her powers on him, but Beatrix caused a rain storm and lightning to interfere with her plans. Otherwise, Cosette would have manipulated him at that time… the effects are unknown b/c she failed! (▰˘◡˘▰)

    Also, the duke explained why he distanced himself from his children, which was basically b/c as the “shield of the empire”, the Parvis family felt they couldn’t afford to let their personal feelings affect them and their decisions regarding their duty to and safety of the empire. The duke purposely detached himself from his children so that him being a loving father wouldn’t cloud his judgment, even when making a hard decision like letting the child he raised die while protecting the one he didn’t raise! He thought restraining himself from showing love was essentially being a responsible Parvis duke! It’s no excuse for being a crappy father, but that’s what he said! ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    轻轻落下来的叶子 January 16, 2024 1:15 am
    No matter how many times you defended that shitbag dad and justify his actions, that doesn't change the fact that mc been through a lot. He regrets it? Sure but that doesn't mean all of what he did is writte... Canah UwU

    I just think it's unfair for people to be that pissed at him. I didn't say what he did is written out, I said that what he's done is reasonably human under his circumstance.

    I don't care if you hate him, and my justification isn't useless. It just means that I bothered to think about everything that was going on as a whole, and will continue to do so because I think it make more sense to hate characters knowing precisely what I hate about them. If you hate him, you hate him. If everyone hates him, everyone hates him. I defend him because I thought there'd be some merit in thinking about it elsewise rather than some people justifying their hate without regard towards the circumstance because that's... more logical... and more interesting-? I like him as a character because he's more interesting than Keira

    And I never read the abandoned empress (or if I did it's been too long ago). So honestly not sure what you're referencing-

    The average MC is faultless in these things or their faults are ridiculous, whenever there is someone who is even slightly more realistic and faces problems that makes them unlikeable people hate them for doing bad things. The only forgiveable mistake is one that is relinquishable in manhwa, but most mistakes aren't relinquishable and imo it's kind of stupid.

    (it was also really early in the morning (like 3:30 am) when I wrote it, so if I sounded grouchy, sorry about that. And I misread the Cosette thing, so sorry about that. I'm also aware I genuinely sound annoyed in general regardless of the circumstance ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭)

Canah UwU December 10, 2023 1:38 pm

You might love the mc, she's cool, but Cossete is a good villian. Mc didn't even stand a chance against her during her first life, but now in second life of course she has the upper hand. Cosette is just a demon so of course her main goal is revenge , and probably destroying the empire, I hate what the grandfather did, If he didn't do that, none of this would've happened, especially the empire. He didn't do shit.

Canah UwU December 7, 2023 4:33 am

, this is good, I've re-read this many times but the more I think about it, the more Mielle could potentially be a good person and a good sister to Aria if it weren't only for her maids, she's a child like Aria, And Aria too got manipulated by the adults around her that she in the past life orders to cut off Jessie's tongue. Mielle is like how old? Sixteen? Seventeen? And Aria is living her second life as a twenty four years old while mielle is still thirteen, that age is so easy to be influence and manipulate I'm not saying What mielle did to Aria in her past life isn't wrong, Aria has the right to get revenge.
And of course the author made mielle looks so stupid probably because she's still young in the current timeline who's been raising by a maid who's bad influencing her to become a spoil brat.

I would honestly like to read in another universes where Aria and Mielle can be a good sisters

    Elle Aline March 27, 2024 9:33 pm

    Honestly I agree, the author really messed up with mielle imo. Realistically it's just as you said but apparently the author doesn't see it that way, else mielle wouldn't have been getting progressively worse and sadistic for no reason

Canah UwU November 7, 2023 2:34 pm

My bias here is Sejin A, hope he gets more screentime

Canah UwU October 30, 2023 3:17 am

The art is good, But tbh, I'm really tired of manha porn like this with the man fucking all of the woman here, Never once I encounter a fluffy straight smut manhwa with only one couple, no cheating no other side bitches and bastard, just a normal couple smut who loves each other so much, but all I see is men fucking all the bitches and those woman has no self respect and only think about sex.
Overall, the art is good.oh yeah, I'm not a fujoshi, Rather I prefer BL shounen ai but I sure read smut BL and GL. The reason why probably fujoshi prefers yaoi is because the smut only mainly focused on the main couple, there isn't that cheating, or having sex with multiple people, unless they read something like that just a normal couple, and of course there's a lot of red flag dude but at least they're possessive and don't cheat and yaoi is made for women that made by majority of women authors

    I'm a Wino October 30, 2023 5:49 am

    there are mangas with that concept.. smut and fluff

    Canah UwU October 30, 2023 6:03 am
    there are mangas with that concept.. smut and fluff I'm a Wino

    Recommend please. Manga not manhwa

    Naty Hunter October 30, 2023 12:56 pm

    The only straigth smut manhwa I remember because I didn't drop for ntr reasons was Zombie Girlfriend it's just porn it has a slightly supernatural macabre take because monsters just exist in the world and are integrated in society the anatomy is wonky but overall they're cute theres some side couples but no nrt as far as I remember there's some censored gore and comedy aspects to it
    Read a couple of chapters feel if you like it

    Canah UwU October 30, 2023 1:37 pm
    The only straigth smut manhwa I remember because I didn't drop for ntr reasons was Zombie Girlfriend it's just porn it has a slightly supernatural macabre take because monsters just exist in the world and are ... Naty Hunter

    It was interesting and hilarious lols, thanks for the recommendations. It has a wholesome ending

    Canah UwU October 30, 2023 1:40 pm
    The only straigth smut manhwa I remember because I didn't drop for ntr reasons was Zombie Girlfriend it's just porn it has a slightly supernatural macabre take because monsters just exist in the world and are ... Naty Hunter

    Though the skeleton's Dick is sure weird

    Naty Hunter October 30, 2023 2:11 pm
    Though the skeleton's Dick is sure weird Canah UwU

    It sure is lol

    ellysanchezs January 8, 2024 4:42 am

    My fav smut are “the missing o” and “talk to me” and i find hard to findo more like those, most are just fucking

Canah UwU October 29, 2023 12:32 pm

Are they at the verge of breaking up? Is the season 2 for the other guy to have chance?

    Canah UwU October 29, 2023 12:34 pm

    I don't honestly undertaken season 2

Canah UwU October 18, 2023 3:56 pm

Am I the only one wondered what happened on the emperor's brother? The black wolf? Did he died?

    Canah UwU October 18, 2023 4:00 pm

    I swear to god though, I kinda think the third Prince is lowkey pitiful, he's the definition of perfect character that Like those asshole character on the story that if he was guided well on his childhood, he probably won't be like that and if the emperor noticed his son being control, kinda waste though , he has potential

    Canah UwU October 18, 2023 4:07 pm
    I swear to god though, I kinda think the third Prince is lowkey pitiful, he's the definition of perfect character that Like those asshole character on the story that if he was guided well on his childhood, h... Canah UwU

    Seriously though, if the emperor and empress guided and didn't neglect the third Prince much on his childhood, he wouldn't turn like this, no one is born evil after all, I kinda pity that there is no a single mention what happened to him while everyone got their happy end,

    Canah UwU October 18, 2023 4:10 pm

    And the author didn't gave him the chance to REDEMPTION , the way he was acting in the first few chapters is like a man-child that didn't grew up, easily to control by the wizards, that only means there wasn't a proper adult figure on his life,

    verminbrat October 20, 2023 10:18 pm

    he died after taking out the dark magician,, and no one acknowledged it (they were saying how there was no casualties or deaths blah blah). i think it’s a plot hole lol but it pisses me off that he died when he didn’t deserve it

Canah UwU October 16, 2023 1:46 am

I'm glad he woke up, really, I hope the kdrama will make many season to reach this ending, my favorite is still rowan but all character is really the best, all of them have glow up especially Eugene and Ben haha, I'm glad for gray, this webtoon I have read over and over again finally reached the the end, I hope there will be side story where Stephen will interact with Grey's friends

Canah UwU October 8, 2023 2:23 pm

And this dude who confront her husband like, "Nanamin cooked a feast y'know? " And then her husband is like, "oh okay" then this dude looks angry at the husband like DUDE WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ANGRY, YOU JUST FUCK HIS WIFE YOU TOUCHED ANOTHER MEN'S WIFE EVEN IF THEY HAD A DISTANT RELATIONSHIP WITH EACH OTHER

    Canah UwU October 8, 2023 2:26 pm

    The female lead is fucking dumb. Like she's so weak, why the hell you just let those men touch you like that!? "S-Stop.... " no bitch, like draw some bounderies, divorce your husband first

    Canah UwU October 8, 2023 2:28 pm
    The female lead is fucking dumb. Like she's so weak, why the hell you just let those men touch you like that!? "S-Stop.... " no bitch, like draw some bounderies, divorce your husband first Canah UwU

    All of the characters is trash, her husband, her brother-in-law and her,

Canah UwU October 8, 2023 5:54 am

The art style became more amazing,
Eugene became more cute actually , almost all of them looks so different,, author style improved

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