To all the people bashing the mc,as someone who relates to the character's issues a lot,I ...

Moemoekyun February 21, 2021 12:10 pm

To all the people bashing the mc,as someone who relates to the character's issues a lot,I hope you grow up and maybe become more empathetic and understanding of people's issues.

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    naya February 22, 2021 11:30 pm

    totally agree with u tho

    Owo.mangaho February 27, 2021 9:02 pm

    I agree lmao half of these people dont understand how hard communication with your partner is and the mental health issues that come with being suicidal and growing up in an abusive home. These people need to learn some fucking empathy lmao

    Butterfly_Effect March 17, 2021 1:50 am

    I relate too, but his attitude was just wrong, he was just selfish and no people shouldn´t justify his behaviour just because he suffered. You sound like a selfish person who only thinks about herself and believes that if someone has an illness is ok to treat innocent people like shit

    Moemoekyun March 17, 2021 8:17 am
    I relate too, but his attitude was just wrong, he was just selfish and no people shouldn´t justify his behaviour just because he suffered. You sound like a selfish person who only thinks about herself and bel... Butterfly_Effect

    It's not okay to treat innocent people like shit but he does not tie the seme to himself.Eveyone is acting as though he is forcing the seme to be with him somehow but that is not the case.The seme took it upon himself to try and treat a person with issues and things would have been more smooth sailing if he had given the pshychology and past of the mc more thought before what he says but what he does is also understandable cause he is basically a teenage kid and he doesn't know much about the world either.
    It was the semes choice to be with mc,he could at any point leave the mc and be with someone else if it was too much for him but he didn't he decided that even if it would be difficult and painful sometimes he still wants to be with mc.The mc's personality is a consequence of his past and he has little control over how he behaves because of all the horrible things he went through.
    It's like you're saying people who have gone through similar situations like mc don't deserve love,That you'd drag anyone who wants to become their signifant other and help treat them,away from them which is unfair.
    You might not want to have this headache of a relationship despite how much you love the other person but thats not the case with seme so just accept that.

    Butterfly_Effect March 17, 2021 9:54 am
    It's not okay to treat innocent people like shit but he does not tie the seme to himself.Eveyone is acting as though he is forcing the seme to be with him somehow but that is not the case.The seme took it upon ... Moemoekyun

    Did you forget that he had a relationship with the other guy and he assumed Chun Sam's feelings, also he didn't accept him at first because he misunderstood things by himself and thought that he liked that girl. He deserves love yes but he handled things wrong and I know this is something that doesn't happen in manhwas but he needed therapy and he shouldn't be in a relationship. Also don't get me started with his jealously, he hated Chun Sam because he had everything that he didn't. He did a lot of things wrong and ridiculous how some people try to justify him

    Moemoekyun March 17, 2021 11:05 am
    Did you forget that he had a relationship with the other guy and he assumed Chun Sam's feelings, also he didn't accept him at first because he misunderstood things by himself and thought that he liked that ... Butterfly_Effect

    (This is all in accordance with my memory of teh story cause I read it a long time ago so there might be some things that I don't remmember well maybe.)
    He had an extreme inferiority complex because he was always abused by his father and was made to feel like he wasn't needed.A LOT of people feel jealous,it is not something that should be condemed so strongly.He did not hate chun Sam because of it but when he came to know his circumstances it did create a wall between them.He felt that they both lived in different worlds and couldn't work out together and he couldn't connect with Sam the way he did before.If driven by his jealously he would have done something to destroy his family or life then it would have been different,then it would have been wrong.There are many crimes that are fuelled by jealousy.But the only thing mc did was grow distant to Sam which he could do, if staying with Sam hurt him more than staying away from him.
    How mc assumes things is also explained by the his past.He is scared and he doesn't want to be hurt.He feels like he doesn't deserve to be loved because of all this and as a defence mechanism,He imagines the worst case,He presumes the worst before it happens so that he can avoid experinecing it in the unfortunate event of it actually happening.
    Leting go of Sam first would have hurt him less than being rejected by him is what he thought and so he did what he did.
    He is also the same age as Sam he doesn't know about therapy and shit and he barely survives with the for name's sake support his shitty father provided him.

    Moemoekyun March 17, 2021 11:10 am
    Did you forget that he had a relationship with the other guy and he assumed Chun Sam's feelings, also he didn't accept him at first because he misunderstood things by himself and thought that he liked that ... Butterfly_Effect

    And also I don't get why it has to be such a big deal if he got tangled with a manipulative cheating bastard like that blond guy.He was young he made a wrong choice and he was the one who felt the most dirty,got hurt the most because of that incident.He even became sucidal because of it but people go like why isn't the mc a pure virgin.Why did he give away his first time!He was obviously the biggest victim he could be in that case.

    Moemoekyun March 17, 2021 11:19 am
    I relate too, but his attitude was just wrong, he was just selfish and no people shouldn´t justify his behaviour just because he suffered. You sound like a selfish person who only thinks about herself and bel... Butterfly_Effect

    Also if someone has an illness,you can stay away from them and make other friends but staying with an ill person and complaining about how they aren't getting better and how it's annoying you,while you keep saying things and do actions that just aggravate that person's illness,is just not the thing a person is supposed to be doing.The seme said a lot of things that hurt the mc,he was oblivious to the effect of his words on the mc but they still hurt.MC had every right to walk away from a person who hurts him intentionally or unintentionally and same goes for the seme.

    Butterfly_Effect March 18, 2021 12:35 am
    Also if someone has an illness,you can stay away from them and make other friends but staying with an ill person and complaining about how they aren't getting better and how it's annoying you,while you keep say... Moemoekyun

    You are clearly biased and not objective at all. Chun Sam was inexpert in relationships yeah but he never hurt the black haired one actually he saved him and stayed with him even if he kept hurting him and not only that but when he discovered that the blonde was cheating the black hair one blamed him for no reason and decided to not believe him. Also he slapped Chum San just because, y'all act like he can do whatever he wants because his father was an asshole. Sorry but it doesn't work like that and he was not a kid, he was old enough to know what he was doing. He made bad decisions and hurt innocent people let's not romanticize his toxic personality, you don't have the right to treat others like shit just because you were treated like that, and because their life is better than yours. Is like saying that because Sangwoo had horrible parents, the things he did were fine and were not his fault. Of course this kind of an exaggeration because Sangwoo actually killed people but you get my point

    Moemoekyun March 18, 2021 6:31 am
    You are clearly biased and not objective at all. Chun Sam was inexpert in relationships yeah but he never hurt the black haired one actually he saved him and stayed with him even if he kept hurting him and no... Butterfly_Effect

    Wtf is up with people linking everything to killing stalking.Being jealous of someone with more money and a happier life is not the same as killing people.The way Sam said things and behaved created many misunderstandings in the earlier chapters and was also kinda one of the reason things became the way they did.My point still stands that Sam did what he did because he loved the mc who had issues.Him having issues made the ride really bumpy but in the end things worked out because Sam always loved him.Sam did not do these things just for the sake of doing them.The mc never asks him to do it or forces him to endure his shit,Sam does all that of his own accord.All the hte towards the mc saying how he didn't deserve the seme and the seme should have left him makes no sense because seme DIDNT WANT TO LEAVE HIM and the mc himself knew that he didn't deserve him and that led to a lot of troubles.Bashing mc because the seme didn't leave him doesn't feel right to me I don't know about you.

    Moemoekyun March 18, 2021 6:50 am
    You are clearly biased and not objective at all. Chun Sam was inexpert in relationships yeah but he never hurt the black haired one actually he saved him and stayed with him even if he kept hurting him and no... Butterfly_Effect

    I keep repeating this again and again but I guess I'll just give it another shot ,you and I don't decide if it's okay or not for him to have done those things. it's the seme who does and he decides to forgive the uke and hence they have a happy relationship in the end.Its NOT OKAY TO TREAT PEOPLE LIKE SHIT BUT SAM DID NOT WALK AWAY WHEN HE COULD AT ANY TIME.The mc is mentally unstable so the things that happened are bound to happen,not because it is okay but because you can guess to a very large extend how a person's pshyc would be affected by trauma they have been through.How they have a tendency of being scared and pushing away people who love them because they are scared that they are bound to be abondaned like they always have.He was a 16-17 year old kid who had never been loved by anyone in his life,had more or less no friends at school and was hated by his father and step mother while being despised for his sister's love directed towards him.

    Moemoekyun March 18, 2021 7:37 am
    You are clearly biased and not objective at all. Chun Sam was inexpert in relationships yeah but he never hurt the black haired one actually he saved him and stayed with him even if he kept hurting him and no... Butterfly_Effect

    Nothing is black and white and no person is always the same.People change just like the mc did.The seme was mature enough to forgive the mistakes he made.But that doesn't mean that everyone has to forgive mistakes made by people.But if you think that you want that person to be beside you and if you feel that you can help heal them then you do that.People don't overcome trauma just like clicking fingers as soon as they realise "oh he's nice to me",if that were the case even his father was nice to him for a span of time and the same goes for the blondie.How did those things turn out?You view the story from both of their points o view so you know Sam is right but the same doesn't go for the uke.Being betrayed by somone you don't love all that much hurts much less than betrayal from the one you love the most.Sam could have done the same but he didn't because he came from a better place.Healing and getting better takes time and we see exactly that happening here .During that treatment you might hurt people because you are still not okay and despite your behaviour such a patient needs someone to be beside him too or things get worse and I say that from experience.I was clinically depressed and tried to commit suicide twice.The same scenario kinda happened with me ,and my mother would be Sam.I never hit her but I became distant to her.I realised I didn't deserve her love and became really rude to her inturn hurting her more but despite that she stood beside me and helped me get better.youre state of mind is not good at that time and you don't view that person as "someone saving you" but he's just someone who is "not letting you die and be free".when you get better you are thankful for what they did just like the mc is in the end.now my mother could have left me be like my many other people I knew did but she didn't.What I did during that time was wrong but I can assure you that that person wasn't me it was a phase in my life, a very very dark phase and it is only right if that phase and actions during those time aren't held against that person for the rest of their lives.It is not something I said but it is something my mother told me whenever I asked her to not be nice to me cause I was bad to her.I don't blame people who left me and didn't look back because they were not in the wrong if they couldn't handle my breakdown around that time.But it would make me sad to think if anyone told my mother that she should have left me to die after giving birth to me and loving me from the moment I was born for those couple of months that I was not nice to her.My mother herself has kind of a recurring depression phase once every few years through which I had helped her a lot of times before,so she understood what I was going through from first hand experience.

    Butterfly_Effect March 18, 2021 9:11 am
    Nothing is black and white and no person is always the same.People change just like the mc did.The seme was mature enough to forgive the mistakes he made.But that doesn't mean that everyone has to forgive mista... Moemoekyun

    You are crazy why do you write so much? that's a really long text. Is interesting to discuss these kind of topics but you are taking it too far and honestly I'm too lazy to read all of that and I will probably disagree so there's not point in wasting my time. But yeah we have different opinions and is ok let's leave it that way

    Moemoekyun March 18, 2021 9:21 am
    You are crazy why do you write so much? that's a really long text. Is interesting to discuss these kind of topics but you are taking it too far and honestly I'm too lazy to read all of that and I will probably ... Butterfly_Effect

    Lol wtf,calling me crazy.im taking it too far??way to be dramatic!! This convo is so pointless when you don't even want to consider the other person's opinion not to mention how you were trying to attack me on a personal level.Youve put your mind to disagreeing even before you read it.
    The last line of my original comment was meant pricisely for people like you cause that's all you can say to such a person.HOPE!!!

    Butterfly_Effect March 18, 2021 8:24 pm

    Ok you are just playing the victim and is embarrassing. I actually did read your previous comments and I didn't agree with them. That's why I replied to you before. And chill is just a story not real life, if you take it too personal and write all of that don't expect other people to read it. I have better things to do anyway and I thought we could discuss this in a mature way but I was clearly wrong

    Ouranaurora May 1, 2021 4:48 am

    I literally have a very similar trauma and experience with an abusive dad and let me tell you: being traumatized and suicidal doesnt give you the right to do whatever you want, step on peoples feelings and be an asshole.
    I hope you grow up and realize empathy does both ways.

    Moemoekyun May 1, 2021 9:07 am
    I literally have a very similar trauma and experience with an abusive dad and let me tell you: being traumatized and suicidal doesnt give you the right to do whatever you want, step on peoples feelings and be a... Ouranaurora

    Butterfly_Effect May 6, 2021 4:55 am
    I literally have a very similar trauma and experience with an abusive dad and let me tell you: being traumatized and suicidal doesnt give you the right to do whatever you want, step on peoples feelings and be a... Ouranaurora

    Thank you, so many people doesn't seem to understand this