I know she wouldnt mind if she were awake

Copdog990 July 10, 2021 7:09 am

But bro, let her be awake so she can consent at least, ya horndog

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    Bbfujoghurl July 10, 2021 7:37 am

    Sex after not seeing each other for too long is normal because you miss each other. Specially, for married couples. Waking up your partner because you miss them isn't harassment. That's what married couples do. Why do I feel like people always connect everything to sexual harassment these days. You can't expect married couples to always ask "can we have sex?" every time they do the did. If one says no, and the other people still continue, that is harassment. This chapter thou, is not.

    Sss July 10, 2021 8:33 am
    Sex after not seeing each other for too long is normal because you miss each other. Specially, for married couples. Waking up your partner because you miss them isn't harassment. That's what married couples do.... Bbfujoghurl

    Consent is saying yes whether through action or words. So saying, "well she didn't say no," is not considered as consent. Was she able to answer in the first place? But if that's what you like/don't mind then OK. Other people feel differently and won't always see things the way you do. I think people are looking at it from marital rape

    Bbfujoghurl July 10, 2021 11:37 am
    Consent is saying yes whether through action or words. So saying, "well she didn't say no," is not considered as consent. Was she able to answer in the first place? But if that's what you like/don't mind then O... Sss

    I had this same discussion as the other comment. Some wouldn't like it, yes. It's fine. I know someone who refused because they're tired from work. And yes, her husband obliged and cooled himself. But if someone says they don't like their husbands doing that but still did, then the husband sexually harassed that wife. But for this couple, this can't be called harassment. I think it's evident from the previous chapters that Lucia would like it because she missed Hugo too. You'll also see from the next chapter that Lucia is fine with it. Every couple have different boundaries but you can't call it harassment just because it's not the same as yours. You can't throw sexual harassment just like that.

    Bbfujoghurl July 10, 2021 11:46 am
    Consent is saying yes whether through action or words. So saying, "well she didn't say no," is not considered as consent. Was she able to answer in the first place? But if that's what you like/don't mind then O... Sss

    Couples usually already had set of boundaries by the time they get married. Or after they get married. If your partner did something knowing you're not fine with it, that is sexual harassment. But you can't expect them to always ask first before doing the deed (except in some scenarios). I think this couple already talked about their boundaries tho.

    Sss July 10, 2021 3:22 pm
    I had this same discussion as the other comment. Some wouldn't like it, yes. It's fine. I know someone who refused because they're tired from work. And yes, her husband obliged and cooled himself. But if someon... Bbfujoghurl

    I'm not "throwing S/H just like that," I'm trying to add a different perspective in support of the original statement since it seemed you were heavily opposing what they said. Having a discussion solely based on opinions especially when we have such opposing views isn't easy. To each their own.

    Bbfujoghurl July 10, 2021 3:29 pm
    I'm not "throwing S/H just like that," I'm trying to add a different perspective in support of the original statement since it seemed you were heavily opposing what they said. Having a discussion solely based o... Sss

    Sorry. That sentence wasn't meant for you. But for the op. But I reread it, it does seem like it's for you. I should have used "they", not "you".

    But yes, marital sexual harassment do exist. It happens. It's just not the case for this couple.

    Copdog990 July 10, 2021 3:54 pm
    Sex after not seeing each other for too long is normal because you miss each other. Specially, for married couples. Waking up your partner because you miss them isn't harassment. That's what married couples do.... Bbfujoghurl

    Bro, I'm saying that she's still asleep, and that he should let her wake up before rubbing up on her. That's it. Idk why you see that as me blowing things out of proportion. And I also saw some of your other comments, and you really think this couple has the communication skills to discuss all other their boundaries at all? Not all couples have that ability, least of all a fictional couple in a manhwa living on miscommunication and misunderstanding.

    But yeah, long story short, I just want her to be an active participant of what's about to go down with her husband and if she's sleeping she cant even non verbally consent cause shes not conscious, so it's just a little uncomfy for me to see.

    Bbfujoghurl July 10, 2021 4:15 pm
    Bro, I'm saying that she's still asleep, and that he should let her wake up before rubbing up on her. That's it. Idk why you see that as me blowing things out of proportion. And I also saw some of your other co... Copdog990

    If you read the chapters, you can see that he respects her boundaries. He stops when she said no because she have to be early the next day. And he's not rubbing it. Lucia moved. Read it again. They do have communication. Lucia always boldly say what she don't like. She's not afraid of him. She stated it herself. She did say her boundaries. She even made a legal paper for it. The boundaries about sex may not be on paper but they obviously have some point of agreement about it. They just haven't talked about "the past". They are communicating the things they can. If you read properly, you'll know it. They had the fight about having a kid because that involves "the past" but it doesn't mean they have no communication. Hugo will talk some of it later on the story when he's ready.

    And sorry if I misunderstood your op. It just look like your implying it's sexual harassment. I understand if it's not comfy for you. Just don't don't want you to call it SH. As I said, every couple is different.

    Bbfujoghurl July 10, 2021 4:36 pm
    Bro, I'm saying that she's still asleep, and that he should let her wake up before rubbing up on her. That's it. Idk why you see that as me blowing things out of proportion. And I also saw some of your other co... Copdog990

    Also, miscommunication doesn't equal breaking boundaries. It just mean, cool down and talk. Miscommunication happens in fiction to spice things up. Breaking bed boundaries is not all romantic or spicy. The miscommunication they had is not at all related to the deed they did. Lucia is a series with married couple as main chara. The author will mostly base the trust and agreement they have with real life married couples. The trust and agreement between married couple was explained better by other person. You can look it up if you want to disagree on that.