[Long] Talking about Sora’s “friends”

Sleepy.exe July 15, 2021 7:17 pm

I dont like either of Sora’s “friends” both of them are extremely toxic and weird. They’re both very idk like fascinated with Sora and its weird. I dont understand why Ahyoung is upset. I always thought her fascination with Sora’s “boyfriend” was weird. In normal friendships having a boyfriend is a talking point but thats never what the entire friendship is about and centered around . I just think Ahyoung is fake, she wanted to be the closest one to Sora but was very quick to stop being friends with Sora and separate her from people over a small lie that realistically everyone would have know it was a lie or if they didn’t they wouldnt be this upset about it being a lie.

As for Jae In. Ive never liked Jae In I always thought it was weird she put Sora on this pedestal and her fascination with her was extremely weird and stalker-ish. I dont understand why Sora made Jae In her “friend” but thats the worst decision she ever made. Jae In is toxic and just not a good person at all she enjoys the fact that Sora is lonely which to be honest is all her fault and Ahyoung fro being weird but still.

I think Sora should make new friends because the supposed friends she has now are horrible and weird and just over all not good for her.

Responses
    Bluestar July 15, 2021 9:04 pm

    I agree with your analysis for the most part but the one place I don’t agree on is that Sora should’ve known better. Speaking as someone who had went through periods of loneliness, it’s hard to tell what toxicity looks like when you don’t have the experience with human relationships. Sora doesn’t have the ability to see red flags in Ahyoung and Jae in because she just didn’t grow up having fights with her friends and learning about boundaries and what not

    Tbh I kinda do get Ahyoung’s pov. It’s a petty issue but Sora hasn’t bothered to clarify it at all even now. Maybe if she explained the truth, Ahyoung would’ve been okay but we won’t know that now

    I’m really hoping that Sora will open up to Haena about this because Haena has more interpersonal experience is willing to weigh in on it better

    F.life July 17, 2021 6:04 am

    You're right, except Sora probably don't know what a toxic friend is since she's always been lonely.

    The author will probably make them talk things out and become friends again. I hope this doesn't happen though, yes they should clarify the lie and all but then everyone goes their way.


    I seriously don't like Ahyoung and Jae in, and they take too much space, I see more of them and less of Haena

    Dee215 July 17, 2021 4:23 pm

    I think your analysis of ahyoung is completely off. The boyfriend is irrelevant... if she wanted to be the closest to sora she would've tried to get her to break up with her "boyfriend" but instead ahyoung gave sora advice to repair that relationship when she thought something was wrong. The problem is sora has been lieing to her for months about this. Ah young told sora that she feels lonely Because she has no real friends and the one real friend she thought she had has been lieing to her its not that hard to understand she's angry and now she lashing out at sora

    Sleepy.exe July 19, 2021 9:39 am
    I think your analysis of ahyoung is completely off. The boyfriend is irrelevant... if she wanted to be the closest to sora she would've tried to get her to break up with her "boyfriend" but instead ahyoung gav... Dee215

    When i say closest i don’t mean romantically. And again I personally just don’t understand why she’s so upset about the boyfriend thing. Sora lying about that doesn’t change anything. She’s still the good friend she always was they just cant talk about boyfriends now. To me its not something to be that upset about but again thats just me. As for her lashing out, if she’s mad at Sora that needs to stay between her and Sora she shouldn’t be isolating her from people. I wanna like Ahyoung because she seems like the some what normal one out of the two but i just cant. :[

    Heavensrun July 20, 2021 5:23 am

    I don't understand why "They were lying to me for no reason" isn't a good enough reason in your mind to explain why someone might decide to stop being friends with someone. If you made friends with somebody, got really close to them, told them close personal secrets, thought they were doing the same, and then found out they just *made up* a significant portion of the life they confided in you, you would just blow that off? Seriously?

    WE know that Sora wasn't lying about everything, and that she was trying to make amends for her initial dishonesty, but Ahyoung doesn't know any of that. As far as she knows, Sora just invented all of it. Having a boyfriend, picking out an outfit for the date, etc. All of that looks like pointless theater from Ahyoungs POV right now. A trick.

    Why should you trust anything that person tells you about anything ever again, if they're just willing to make up stories to look cool?

    I think dropping somebody because they're full of it is one of the most relatable things that has happened in this comic. ;p

    Don't get me wrong, I want to see them make up so Ahyoung can properly wingman Sora's relationship with Haena, but I can easily understand why she's so hurt right now.

    F.life July 20, 2021 3:25 pm
    I don't understand why "They were lying to me for no reason" isn't a good enough reason in your mind to explain why someone might decide to stop being friends with someone. If you made friends with somebody, g... Heavensrun

    Ahyoung is toxic.

    She's perfectly right to get mad and leave because of Sora's lies ( I would too).

    But you know why she's toxic and even more than Jae in I dare say ( or maybe not, Jae in is scary lol). Because she's the worst friend you could ever have. Not only she doesn't want to be friends with Sora anymore, wish is perfectly fine, she also don't want Sora to make friends by deliberately isolating her from others and those others are the people Ahyoung said she didn't consider as her friends (in the early chapters) because she's famous and pretty and they were probably talking about her behind her back and then she's exactly the same because she has no proof and just stipulating about what'snot (and who knows, maybe those other girls genuinely like her), that's diabolic.
    Ahyoung made everything about herself, she wanted to be the only one, she was the one that knew best, she decided to be the best friend only after changing few words about "boyfriend". I really don't think that's how it works

    I felt for Ahyoung seriously, because whatever it is everybody deserves the truth. But hey, she could have confronted Sora or something but don't be a jealous bully.

    I hope they talk and clear things up. Everyone going their way would probably not happen, so they might become "best friends" again and the only difference to their conversations is that it won't be about boyfriends but about girlfriends. I wouldn't mind though.

    Dee215 July 20, 2021 11:23 pm
    Ahyoung is toxic.She's perfectly right to get mad and leave because of Sora's lies ( I would too). But you know why she's toxic and even more than Jae in I dare say ( or maybe not, Jae in is scary lol). Because... F.life

    Lmao jae in and ahyoung aren't even in the same universe in terms of how they treat sora so its honestly hard to take your comment serious. Jae in barely even sees sora as a person let alone as a friend. She sees her as some mythical God who she's been having some imaginary battle with, she has stalked her multiple times, shes black mailed a couple of times,, she has been actively trying to separate sora from heana and ahyoung hell she has even outright said she wants sora to be miserable and lonely again. Like its actually funny how not debatable this is worse by a stupidly wide margin.

    She isn't exactly the same because as far as we know she isn't pretending to be soras friend and then talking behind her back. As for ahyoungs acquaintances we've seen multiple examples of them talking behind peoples back and in ahyoungs own words "they're probably talking behind my back like they do with everyone else " she has also said they only have superficial conversations together which we've seen. she has proof......maybe not direct proof but proof non the less. Actually after skimming over the chapters ahyoung and haena are alot alike they have friends who they only have superficial convos with and only confide their deepest insecurities with sora the only difference being that sora was lying to ahyoung and telling the truth(semi truth) to haena.

    Your English is a bit off so I might be misreading what you're saying but Ahyoungs exact words to sora were "were you lying to me this whole time?" "Were all the secrets you told me a lie?" "The boyfriend you were always talking about never even existed?" "I stood by you but the two of you knew the real truth the whole time for the last 6 month's?" And soras reply to this was just" yeah" with no real attempt at elaboration. You're downplaying how bad this actually seems. Not to mention sora has ahyoungs phone number, she knows where she lives and goes to the same school and yet has not made a single attempt to clear the air which just makes her look worse.

    Sora hurt her and now she's trying to hurt sora back, Will they make up? Most likely but ahyoung is not exponentially worse than sora in this situation they're about the same.

    As for jae in I personally don't care but I assume she'll get some sort of redemption arc eventually

    F.life July 21, 2021 4:28 am
    Lmao jae in and ahyoung aren't even in the same universe in terms of how they treat sora so its honestly hard to take your comment serious. Jae in barely even sees sora as a person let alone as a friend. She se... Dee215

    I get it, you actually missed all the point I was trying to make so "it's honestly hard to take your comment serious". And don't worry, I'm not downplaying anything.

    Heavensrun July 21, 2021 7:04 am

    She's isolating her from others because from her perspective Sora has shown herself to be someone who can't be trusted, who will make up stories to get in people's good graces. If I knew somebody like that, you can sure bet i'd warn people about them. It would be irresponsible not to. Now, she's *wrong* about Sora, but she doesn't have any way to know that. Dee215 is spot on when they point out that Sora has made no effort to explain herself. That's the main reason Ahyoung has such a negative impression of events. The reason Sora hasn't said more is because she has low self esteem and is wallowing in guilt and depression, and retreating into her time with Haena rather than processing it and trying to explain.

    If they'd actually talk, Ahyoung would probably realize that Sora was actually mostly being honest with her. The things they bonded over were real, they were just about Haena rather than some fictional boyfriend. But until Sora *tells her that*, she can't make use of that information, so right now, *all* she has is Sora's confession that everything she said was a lie, and the knowledge that Jaein was in on it the whole time. She not only feels like she was lied to, but that she was the butt of a joke, that Jaein was the real confidant.

    Dee215 July 21, 2021 8:13 pm
    I get it, you actually missed all the point I was trying to make so "it's honestly hard to take your comment serious". And don't worry, I'm not downplaying anything. F.life

    No I completely understood what you said. Your point was that ahyoung is being really toxic(potentially the most toxic in the series if you're comparing them to jae in), 2 that she's a hypocrite , 3 she should confront sora instead of isolating her.

    I already made these points so idk why I'm repeating myself but

    1. She's not the most toxic not even close

    2. Again she isn't a hypocrite because she didn't do what she claims they do. Even jae in if she has had a problem with her she has just said it directly to her. She also has evidence for her claims

    3. Ahyoung shouldn't confront sora. Sora is the one in the wrong and therefore sora should confront ahyoung