For me it's concerning that Dan let Jaekyung put all these bdsm thingies on him after sayi...

levisundercutie September 22, 2023 5:31 pm

For me it's concerning that Dan let Jaekyung put all these bdsm thingies on him after saying no?Do they even have a safe word? I doubt that Jk even thought about this. BUT WHAT IS THE AUTHOR ON LIKE CMON

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    Person September 22, 2023 5:33 pm

    Ofc they dont have a safeword, this is a toxic abusive relationship. Nothing about what Joo Jaekyung is doing is consensual.

    toilet terrorist September 22, 2023 5:36 pm

    Jakeyung literally said he cant say no, if he actually said no JK wouldve probably been more violent with him, its easier to submit when you know it'll happen no matter what you say. Plus Dan is an SA survivor, they're way more likely to be assaulted again and not do anything about it.

    Asamilee September 22, 2023 5:36 pm

    He doesn’t have the right to say no so no safe words:((

    Lin September 22, 2023 5:46 pm

    Dan can't say no. Jakeyung literally bought him.

    hanie September 22, 2023 6:17 pm

    "consent"? where do you see consent in this entire series, honestly? do you think someone such as jaekyung gives a shit about safe words?

    Tmsmyz September 22, 2023 6:19 pm
    Dan can't say no. Jakeyung literally bought him. Lin

    Review chapter 21.

    toilet terrorist September 22, 2023 6:20 pm
    Dan can't say no. Jakeyung literally bought him. Lin

    You make it sound like human trafficking but youre kind of right, Dan does have the right to say no but Jaekyung is in a position of power here.

    toilet terrorist September 22, 2023 6:26 pm
    You make it sound like human trafficking but youre kind of right, Dan does have the right to say no but Jaekyung is in a position of power here. toilet terrorist

    key word here "kind of" Dan still has human rights and the agreement he made with jaekyung is inherently sexually exploitative. Dan seems to have low self-esteem and clear issues with bohndaries and saying no. Hes intimidated by Jaekyung in general, i mean hes seen him beat his old sex partner for talking shit so yeah who wouldn't. Either way i think that the scenes we saw were rape and sexual abuse but Dan isnt some priss.

    Tmsmyz September 22, 2023 6:29 pm

    Dan can say no. And you don’t always have to agree on a safeword. Because there are many dozen of pre-made safe words.
    Dan as other words.
    Dan can hysterically start crying. JK hates the crying regardless of what he said in chapter 4. That is referring to crying in pleasure. And has ask how to stop the crying to. What he is saying here is no that serious.

    toilet terrorist September 22, 2023 6:31 pm
    Dan can say no. And you don’t always have to agree on a safeword. Because there are many dozen of pre-made safe words. Dan as other words. Dan can hysterically start crying. JK hates the crying regardless of ... Tmsmyz

    Dan was crying the whole ch 33 through Bro didnt care when he felt humiliated then

    Tmsmyz September 22, 2023 6:54 pm
    Dan was crying the whole ch 33 through Bro didnt care when he felt humiliated then toilet terrorist

    He does care. He does.
    Also toilet instead of trying to be right. Try to understand.
    In 33 JK’s face in the last panel says a different story.


    “ Dan can hysterically start crying. JK hates the crying regardless of what he said in chapter 4. That is referring to crying in pleasure.”

    In chapter 4, JK is talking about a different kind of crying than the crying I was talking about. If Dan starts crying like in chapter 1 or worst. (Where JK knows it is not about sex.) He dislike the crying (non pleasure crying), he is wanting to see what Dan would change in 29 because of the whining and crying. That is why he is concerned in chapter 4. But Dan lied to him and he brushed it off. Tsundere.

    There is the crying of pleasure, sadness, anger, fear and more. I think Jk is misinterpreting Dan’s crying in sex or can’t understand other people’s emotions. He could have something like Asperger’s

    levisundercutie September 22, 2023 8:13 pm
    "consent"? where do you see consent in this entire series, honestly? do you think someone such as jaekyung gives a shit about safe words? hanie

    Did not have to say it so aggressive as if I didnt knowI'm just annoyed that I loved the author for Bj Alex and they still managed to ruin their reputation with such a shitty ass character

    levisundercutie September 22, 2023 8:15 pm
    Dan can say no. And you don’t always have to agree on a safeword. Because there are many dozen of pre-made safe words. Dan as other words. Dan can hysterically start crying. JK hates the crying regardless of ... Tmsmyz

    That is bullshit sorry but you clearly don't have any idea how important safe words during plays like these are. Crying is not a way of saying stop (could be but that's not the point)

    toilet terrorist September 22, 2023 8:26 pm
    He does care. He does.Also toilet instead of trying to be right. Try to understand. In 33 JK’s face in the last panel says a different story. “ Dan can hysterically start crying. JK hates the crying regardl... Tmsmyz

    Yeah but only after hes finished does he actually realise that dan is crying genuinely, i noticed his face too and it looked like post nut clarity. The issue here is he only stops once hes done the damage, crying isnt a surefire way to replace consent nor indicate consent and its not like Jaekyung is gonna be able to dictate what 'type' cryjng Dan is doing if he doesn't properly pay attention. A disability isnt an excuse, i can understand but i cant condone or give special treatment just because its likely he doesnt understand. Also i dont really think Dan is a tsundere, those are like asuka from evangelion, taiga from toradora, erina from food wars etc. I think he just brushed it off because he tends to downplay things when it comes to his physical welbeing. I dont know why it was even a question though considering Dan was bleeding, it must've hurt like hell, cant imagine that.

    Tmsmyz September 22, 2023 8:40 pm
    That is bullshit sorry but you clearly don't have any idea how important safe words during plays like these are. Crying is not a way of saying stop (could be but that's not the point) levisundercutie

    We are into BDSM. —> TMSM.
    My husband and I ( TM and SM). M isn’t are real last name it is from BDSM. It is not TDSM because we are married.
    Go back and read again instead of trying to degrade others.
    You misunderstood my comment. Two put two things together.

    Tmsmyz September 22, 2023 8:51 pm
    That is bullshit sorry but you clearly don't have any idea how important safe words during plays like these are. Crying is not a way of saying stop (could be but that's not the point) levisundercutie

    https://www.lascivity.co.uk/do-i-need-a-safeword-guide-to-safewords-in-bdsm/

    Why does this site back me up?

    https://submissiveguide.com/safety/articles/to-safeword-or-not-to-safeword This one says depends.

    Why don’t you educate yourself. I told you the truth. You clearly have no idea of my world or BDSM or what I was saying. Try again. Lol.

    Tmsmyz September 22, 2023 9:04 pm
    Yeah but only after hes finished does he actually realise that dan is crying genuinely, i noticed his face too and it looked like post nut clarity. The issue here is he only stops once hes done the damage, cry... toilet terrorist

    “Yeah but only after hes finished does he actually realise that dan is crying genuinely, i noticed his face too and it looked like post nut clarity “. No. It was from what Dan said.

    “The issue here is he only stops once hes done the damage, crying isnt a surefire way to replace consent nor indicate consent and its not like Jaekyung is gonna be able to dictate what 'type' cryjng Dan is doing if he doesn't properly pay attention.” False.

    “ A disability isnt an excuse, i can understand but i cant condone or give special treatment just because its likely he doesnt understand. “ that fits this conversation how?? Who used that as an excuse? Wait what?! If someone with Asperger‘s can’t understand somebody’s emotions don’t expect them to understand someone’s emotions. That doesn’t get you right to condemn them. This was cowardly and wrong to say. It was completely unnecessary to say. It was off topic.
    Where did you get Dan is a Tsundere?? Jk is a Tsundere.
    Tsundere to how he brushed it off.

    .” I dont know why it was even a question though considering Dan was bleeding, it must've hurt like hell, cant imagine that”. Bleeding is common. How it happened it probably hurt like hell. But even if he went vanilla and gentle, it could had equal to having blood to. His fragile wall of his anus just ripped. You seemed to have deliberately changed my message what was in question? I was explaining something to you.

    toilet terrorist September 22, 2023 9:08 pm
    “Yeah but only after hes finished does he actually realise that dan is crying genuinely, i noticed his face too and it looked like post nut clarity “. No. It was from what Dan said. “The issue here is he... Tmsmyz

    I THOUGHT YOU CALLED DAN A TSUNDERE OH SHIT SORRY, THE WAY YOU WROTE IT I JUST INTERPRETED IT AS THAT. Uhhh im so confused here right now i dont understand the point you were making in the original comment.

    toilet terrorist September 22, 2023 9:09 pm
    “Yeah but only after hes finished does he actually realise that dan is crying genuinely, i noticed his face too and it looked like post nut clarity “. No. It was from what Dan said. “The issue here is he... Tmsmyz

    “The issue here is he only stops once hes done the damage, crying isnt a surefire way to replace consent nor indicate consent and its not like Jaekyung is gonna be able to dictate what 'type' cryjng Dan is doing if he doesn't properly pay attention.” False.

    ?? Can you elaborate here

    Tmsmyz September 22, 2023 10:01 pm
    We are into BDSM. —> TMSM. My husband and I ( TM and SM). M isn’t are real last name it is from BDSM. It is not TDSM because we are married. Go back and read again instead of trying to degrade others. ... Tmsmyz

    My bad. I was laughing too hard.
    M isn’t our real *
    You put two thing together. *
    Laughing = Telling a dominant in a BDSM relationship they don’t understand safe words.. Haha. Yeah, no.