Right????? You tell 'em babe!!!!!!!! Yuri had a massive character development but that doesn't mean his behavior will change as soon as they get together!!?? Like man ppl don't change overnight. Those complaining about this manhwa should calm down like bru go find a fluffy read or sumth
yeah but we don’t want the series to end with their relationship still very toxic??? no conversation or boundaries have been made abt yuri’s possessiveness and slutshaming at all and we’re on the epilogues where they’re trying so hard to convince us that they’re happy and yuri is just a goofy guy who gets possessive.
Idk i feel like despite everything they do genuinely seem happy together? and it's established that theyre both crazy not goofy. Like after yuri's toxic episodes Jiri just goes aw he's a cute kind kid. The point is that theyre both bonkers in a way that somehow works for them. And if down the line yuri really crosses a line that Jiri can't accept (though I don't think thatll happen lol) then they can part ways
yeah I also like the fact that even though Yuri is still toxic their relationship dynamic works.
you jus stated so many red flags
their relationship is so hard to watch because there's no actual path to improving yuri's shitty personality and it's jus jiri brushing it off which is very much the same issue they had with their original relationship. yuri having horrible possessiveness, having outbursts (although it's "better" now, slutshaming your partner is NOT good) and jiri just brushing it off because he's "just a kid." like we're this deep into the story and their shitty problems are still there, their love is jus requited thats it.
Yes? That's what I said lol. The point is that it's not what one would consider a normal healthy relationship. And seeing how yuri apologized and jiri did tell him off, there's actually been some sort of improvement lol. Jiri "brushing it off because he's a kid" is the entire point to highlight how he's got issues too. How i see it is that on their own they were miserable and depressed but when theyre together theyre happy despite eachother's flaws. Shitty problems don't disappear just like that, they can still choose to be together regardless
nah that's jus unhealthy codependency on each other. like i love tragedies, bittersweet and imperfect romances and this was one of my favorite series, but the author is trying so hard to convince us that this isn't a horrible relationship development. this type of dynamic only really works out when the story acknowledges how fucked up this kinda relationship is and explicitly mentions it or has the "breakthrough" moment where character development happens. cause when you don't have something like that, you either intentionally or unintentionally imply that this kind of unhealthy relationship is ok.
we're pushing over 100 chapters and are knee deep in epilogues right now and if the story ends with their relationship still like this, it's jus super unsatisfying with barely any development besides their romance being requited. their relationship doesn't need to be fluffy, but any break through would be far more interesting than yuri constantly being a possessive adult baby.
Yeah, i do see where you're coming from. Though I also think the authors made it pretty explicit by calling it a disastrous relationship. I guess in the end the question of whether or not it's okay is gonna be different for each person. And I think that in of itself is also kind of the food for thought the author is giving us? Like showing us a non standard relationship that's born from really unhappy circumstances.
Are they really happy like this? That's something I think only jiri and yuri can answer for themselves.
the best way i can express myself is that you're a very good reader but the author isn't a a great writer. it's definitely up to perspective, but i think that sometimes open-ended stories are jus due to the laziness of an author, such as in this case, and a story is only good because the reader's perspective is good. a whole entire different approach to this series would've been far more interesting, direct and clear in my opinion.
hm that's interesting ive never thought in that way. personally I didn't find the author's writing bad or lazy but we'll just have to agree to disagree on this
The story is very realistic in the way that toxicity doesn't just go away when they get together