Also uke looks underaged period! I see some annoying ass hoes called spazzz defending it before anyone even made a comment about how the uke looked like a kid like do you see how stupid you sound? For you to know that people will say that means that you know that it looks like a kid
or maybe people just touch grass and don't call every short character underaged. thats like coding every 5 ft adult with a baby face a child, yall look silly.
uke is just a bit shorter than average guys the seme is a giant at 2 meters tall if the seme was shorter and they didn't have a huge height difference you wouldn't be calling the uke underaged
Lmao you clearly have a problem if you think that 5 ft adult looks anywhere similar to this. Most Asian countries has 5ft old people and you can tell their age
I'm the 'annoying' person you were talking about and guess what? I'm asian myself. I am in my mid twenties. People mistake me for a middle schooler. It's very annoying having people like to speak for me when you know nothing
You know what's really annoying? Seeing people comment that someone looks like a kid just because of their height. It's really fucking annoying so I brought it up first because I KNEW there would be people like you saying that about every couple with a height difference. God, I hate it when people infantize short people. I'm short, not a fucking child
Why do you sound like you met all Asian ppl?? Girl, I know a few ppl who need to show their ID sometimes just to prove they're already an adult. Just because the people you saw/around you looks old doesn't mean all the people are also like that.
Just because people infantilize you or you looking younger than your age doesn’t mean you defending this manga is any better lmao. This is a manga not real life, the creator could’ve drawn him like an adult and they didn’t. Which clearly means they’re catering to that type of audience. People on this web have grown and most of them don’t like pedophilia nor shota anymore lmao, don’t think anyone like you will gain the upper hand on the argument nor the ratio of likes
Wow, you're so insanely ignorant. So people should just not represent an entire population of people because *you* feel uncomfortable about it? There are SO many people who look younger than they actually are. For example, many, many westerners think Asians look younger because of their facial structure. So you're the one infantilizing short people. Wtf do you mean 'draw him like an adult'? Oh I'm sorry apparently having a round face and being short means looking like a kid to you?? I guess that means that whoever I date in the future can't be an adult, because they must like me because I look like a kid and they must be a pedophile. Is that what you mean? I'm so sick and tired of you internet activists shouting the term 'pedophile' left and right, watering down the term when it is an extremely serious crime. You know how many people are taken less seriously when they accuse an ACTUAL pedophile or being a pedophile because of people like you? Because then the Internet will just assume you're trying to white knight a FICTIONAL character instead of a LIVING, BREATHING HUMAN CHILD
So short and young looking people, who already have to deal with this kinda shit IRL (getting accused of being minors, getting told their IDs are fake, their partners being assumed to be parents or siblings or accused of pedophilia), don’t deserve to be depicted in media lest people think it’s pedophilia?
Like, I’m a gay man in my mid 20’s, I get mistaken for a 14-19 year old frequently, with a baby face and height of 5’2”. I constantly feel insecure and inadequate due to my height. I have to go out of my way to find depictions of adult men around my height! Especially in gay drawn media. This manga even has enough of a story where it goes out of its way to make it abundantly clear that the character is an adult man.
If the author wanted to cater to people who like shota, they would literally just draw shota. They’re catering to people who like size differences, which is a different thing, and a lot of the people who like it are very short irl.
Not to mention, like, the art style just makes people look young, regardless of height. The character looks like a short young man and (ignoring the height difference) doesn’t look like there’s an age difference between him and the top. Shota shit doesn’t look like this.
No shade but you looking underaged does not mean you’re an oppressed demographic who needs representation lmao. Your “representation” which in itself is already problematic in every way and cater to minor attracted person and pedophilias.
Just because the manga “goes out of its way to mention the character is an adult man” doesn’t make it any better and this is the exact argument people use to defend 5000 year old childs in hentai.
Porn video with grown women that look underage are considered problematic because they cater to that type of target audience and MAP/ pedophilias don’t give a shit about people age when they see a person looking like a child in porn. Not only that mangas aren’t real, people don’t choose to look childish or underaged, but mangaka themselves can decide whether they look underage or not. So it’s obviously that this author is clearly catering to that type of audience.
Also just because a manga isn’t labeled as “shota” doesn’t mean it doesn’t include child like loooking characters.
And again, I’m gonna stress this the second time, you looking underaged does not mean you’re an oppressed demographic who needs representation, so get your weird ass out and stop trying to include child like characters in hentai
Might mute this argument if they took 13 hours to reply xx
Maybe because I have a life and I'm not chronically online like you?
They really can't accept the fact short people exists dhshshshshdhs u should stop arguing with them.
You're right lol. Why can't they understand attraction isn't all about looks? Isn't the most important thing personality? Just because a person looks young doesn't mean every single person that's attracted to them is a pedo
You are saying that certain body types, certain appearances, should not be represented. I don't know how to tell you this, but every body type deserves representation. The impossible standards society puts people to, especially for women, mean that it is important to represent as many body types as possible, as representation has been shown to improve people's self-image. To say that an entire group of people should not be represented is wild. No one said they were oppressed, but you don't need to be oppressed to be discriminated against and/or mistreated. Imagine someone telling you that they have extremely bad self-image because they are too short and people mistake them for a kid - they feel like they struggle to find a relationship and to be taken seriously by people. They want to be able to be happy about their body and to feel sexy. They wish there were characters like them in media. Are you seriously telling me that they should be told, "well too bad, those people are right, if you try to be sexy it's catering to pedophiles"? That's insane. And I use this example specifically because you later mention that actresses who "look underage" are problematic for being sex workers - okay, so like, you're gonna tell someone they shouldn't be allowed to go into a career field because of their appearance? Sure, that's not oppression, but that's sure as hell discrimination.
Also, no, it's really not the same. A character who looks like a young adult, acts like a young adult, and is only depicted living the life of a young adult, is in fact not the same as a character who looks and acts like a young child but says they are an adult.
Also I'm sorry, its not "obvious" that the author is catering to that type of audience. Pedophiles do give a shit about people's age, many of them are only attracted to specific age ranges.
Not what I said, but cool - if you remove the size gap these characters look the same age. Shota characters don't look like this is my point.
Also like, I don't how to break this to you, but being short is inseparably tied to my status of being an oppressed person. Due to my ethnic background (which I'm not oppressed for, but is worth mentioning since there are very tall AFABs as well) and being AFAB, I'm incredibly short. Many other trans men, like me, are very short, and have to deal with being considered less than real men due to something as stupid and insignificant as our heights. We also are more likely to be accused of faking identification and mistreated due to looking young. Besides for that, yeah, as a queer man I'm gonna take issue with you basically implying that feeling sexual attraction for me is pedophilic - when queer men are one of the groups most falsely accused of being pedophiles and that leads to us being killed, you're perpetuating that shit by saying that it's pedophilic to be attracted to adult men who might get mistaken for looking younger.
Lastly, since this happens mostly to women: women are also an oppressed group. Women are more likely to have body issues and insecurities due to the way society mistreats women. Again, imagine telling a person with body issues that they should not be represented because pedophiles might jack off to them.
Go outside and touch grass, fr.
Say a whole lot of nothing. You being short doesn’t have to do anything about you being discriminated as a trans person, tons of men are short.
Also the size gap is part of what makes this pedophilic. Saying that if you remove the height gap then the characters look the same not only is wrong but shows your obvious undeveloped brain because that’s one of the thing is problematic for
And again, even if you defenders are aware that this will get accused of pedophilic character design, then it’s also obvious that some pedophile will be attracted to this because not all pedophiles are the same, some don’t care about age gap and definitely some find this manga fitting to their taste
And again, keep typing 1000+ words paragraph since you have so much time on your life. But sincerely, it doesn’t make it any better when only 15% of it makes sense and is comprehensible. Ironic how you tell me to go outside and touch grass when you probably spend at least 30 minutes writing up paragraphs to send to me
Go outside and touch grass, fr <3
I get the sense that you didn’t really try to understand what I’m saying, but that’s fine. No matter how I explain your statements perpetuate homophobic stereotypes of gay men being predators, minimize the experiences of trans people, and infantilize people for their appearances, you’ve shown your colors by instead deciding to spew ableist vitriolic statements like saying someone has an “underdeveloped brain”. Clearly you are on the side of Good and Justice when you espouse bigotry.
Also like, okay, lol, I literally go outside and interact with nature as my career and education, as well as for fun! I wrote two replies compared to your… many, bcus I think it’s fun to debate a lil w ppl who act like this. Btw, that took like 10 minutes approx., not 30.
Tho I am going to back out now bcus I don’t like bothering with people who use ableist language. Bye, lol
Because no such thing in my comments perpetuate those stereotypes. That’s why your reply don’t make sense
Also try to go and interact with outside for fun more often and stop lying. We all know that paragraph took you 30 min
All your paragraphs took probably 4 hours to write do all of us a favor and mute this and go outside and touch grass
THE ANATOMY IS SENDING ME HOW IS UKE CHEST LIKE THAT HELP …..