What are you people talking about? Consent?

Atlas November 10, 2023 3:03 pm

Dom literally just started commanding him without his consent! Either you guys don't really know what consent is, or you're blind to it being broken because in the end the sub wanted it... The fact that the sub was ok with it, does NOT mean consent was actually given at all... You need to get consent before you do anything! If you guys actually think this is healthy consensual dom/sub dynamics, you are dead wrong!

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    Marpter November 10, 2023 11:07 pm

    I gave it a pass because they had a relationship already and the sub was freaking out. Being commanded calmed him, then the dom asked what the sub wanted. It's in my head like when you hug someone to calm them down. You don't ask for concent and don't know if it will work,but you try.

    Atlas November 10, 2023 11:28 pm
    I gave it a pass because they had a relationship already and the sub was freaking out. Being commanded calmed him, then the dom asked what the sub wanted. It's in my head like when you hug someone to calm them ... Marpter

    My problem is only with the fact that people say it's consensual - it isn't! I didn't mind the interactions but consent was never given...

    And while you're right that, you don't have to ask for consent for every little thing, such as trying to give a hug, there is a huge difference between that and then giving an order, that he can't disobey.

    If someone tried to hug him and, he didn't like it, he could step back and say no, but with an order, he can't, because in this fictional world he has no choice but to follow the order.

    Again, it is, what it is, and I didn't mind it, but I think it's really important to be aware that we often become blind when things are wrapped in fluff and kindness, and then determine that it's consensual just because of that.

    demon13o November 11, 2023 6:17 pm

    Consent was given afterwards; granted I see where you're coming and I understand. He was not willing at the start, but mind you he could have stopped it at any point as it was over the computer. He had mentally consented with his feelings for the guy before he could register this fact. I know that doesn't quite make sense but it fits the situation. He had wanted him to be a DOM and when it was presented that he was it was a change he wanted, but didn't register until he gave permission.

    Atlas November 11, 2023 8:28 pm
    Consent was given afterwards; granted I see where you're coming and I understand. He was not willing at the start, but mind you he could have stopped it at any point as it was over the computer. He had mentally... demon13o

    Yeah, as I said in another comment, I didn't mind it much, since you're right, he had consented in his mind and he wanted, what he got. The problem for me, and the only reason I commented, is because some here made a point of saying it was a very healthy and consensual relationship, which it wasn't.

    Dom lied about who he was and purposely manipulated him into working at his company without knowing what that meant and then commanded him without his consent. Everything in this story ended up being great for the sub and something he wanted that brought him happiness and made his life better, but that does not mean it wasn't dangerously problematic in terms of consent - what if it wasn't something he wanted? Then the damage would already have been done!

    We know what the sub was thinking, but the Dom didn't...

    demon13o November 12, 2023 8:17 pm
    Yeah, as I said in another comment, I didn't mind it much, since you're right, he had consented in his mind and he wanted, what he got. The problem for me, and the only reason I commented, is because some here ... Atlas

    Oh that I would agree with you 100% then. If it wasn't for him emotionally consenting beforehand then yeah I'd be like "that's rape no matter how you put it". It was cute that he made the workspace safe for him to apply there, but it was underhanded to hide the information that it was his own company. I think the only reason the Dom was so on point with the Sub's thoughts was because he'd been his online friend for years. You do tend to show a lot of your personality even if you don't share everything with your online friends and it's enough for them to come to understand you if they're an empath type.

    In no way saying the Dom was in the right at all because if he wasn't such a good guy that we came to learn then the fact he had made a way for our Sub to work at his company without letting him know it was his company would be a BIG NO-NO!

    If it wasn't so well written to the point that you can be ok with this setting even with the delayed consent. We can see when they brought it up the forced near bully situation twice and him being saved before the second attempt could get anywhere. He at least learned then and not super late along the way who his online friend was really.