it’s always funny how people forget how yawhi sexually assaulted jooin and that he was a bad person no redemption arc excuses that and that’s the thing with most bl story’s there’s always sh for no reason at all
In what chapter cuz I read this long ago and don't remember. And not saying it excuses if he did that but taeju did that too( if yawhi really did that cuz I don't remember him actually doing that)
It's also about how Cain is the obviously better choice.
Why is he better. In my opinion he's not suited for jooin.
Well gotta say, jooin doesn't deserve him.
Great answer
You can reread chapter 7 if you don’t remember what Yahwi did. And it’s not only about the dubious consent, but also because he was violent (slapping Jooin and always yelling at him), arrogant, let Jooin suffer because of rumors which involved him too and he was a very selfish character until almost the end. Even in his supposed redemption arc he still wanted Jooin to suffer and also asked Jooin to stay with him, not caring if it was out of pity. Yahwi changed a bit in the time skip but it wasn’t enough and very rushed.
Also, you shouldn’t compare another character, who is from another story, with Yahwi because they’re in completely different situations and stories, but if you want to compare them let me tell you that they’re both toxic and their behavior shouldn’t be excused.
100% agreed
Okay thank you for enlightening me. I did not remember about this incident. And yeah I'm never gonna excuse what he did. Even tho jooin never called him on it and didn't have a problem with it I agree it's in no way something acceptable. But the part about him being selfish and arrogant I think it's a bit of overreaction tbh. I don't remember yahwi acting like that after his redemption arc. He didn't want jooin to suffer. And he was going through things. Whatever that was he was going through. At the beginning he was a total ass but throughout the story I actually got to like him and i don't think he's anywhere near and he's actually a nice person now. I'm comparing them even tho they're in different situations because both of them did very bad things cuz they were going through things and had their redemption arcs. I also think the word toxic is getting tossed around too much in here and it starts to lose its true meaning and value. Their behaviour shouldn't be excused and they were not. Because you made mistakes doesn't mean you cannot be forgiven. We gotta be realistic here. It's very easy to judge so hard when the other character (Cain) was purposely made to be perfect and not natural in any way. He was like a robot that only knew his master jooin. The difference is that you'll never come across a relationship like Cain's and jooins but you will with yahwi and jooin. That's pretty much all I had to say again I'm not excusing his old behavior at all ik just saying change is great and should be accepted if it's welcomed
Girl what were you even reading the entire time..
Wym I don't understand
Need to drag another character in this story....ar stupid or what
What? You talking about me being stupid? It's funny how some people don't even have the knowledge to explain their point of view and only resume to insults. That's so smart
We don't need to explain the obvious. If you read the replies then there's the explanation if you want too. Writing long ass paragraphs ain't gon prove your point hon
Pookie. I'm not asking for anything from you. I want to have a conversation with a person that has the abilities needed and you're clearly not one. Just because I have a different view doesn't mean I'm wrong. And yeah I write long paragraphs but please tell me what was wrong in what I wrote not just state the obvious. And also you're really not the right person to have a saying here cuz from your other comments we can clearly tell how your reasonings behind hating this character are simply superficial and biased. Cuz unlike me( who I don't say what he has done is ok, I said it's wrong but I believe in change) you clearly don't have a problem with r pe from what I've seen. So keep that attitude somewhere else
Not everyone hates him. Personally I don't take either side. What I found irritating about him isn't even 100% about him. Before he even realized he was being a shit person, anyone who said he was a shit person, his fan club went crazy about it. He sexually assaulted Jooin, physically and emotionally abused him, toyed with him and then we see some sad story about his parents dying and that makes his behavior excusable? Then his redemption is that he walks away for awhile and comes back "a better person" Which okay, sure, but before Jooin even takes a breath to maybe get to know him again and assure himself that he's changed, they're in the bed saying they love each other. It's not the character, its's the writing and I think a lot of people don't know how to say that so it comes out that they hate the character.
And Taeju is a POS too, but he is admitting he is a POS while showing changed behavior. Not to mention he is taking action to undo the bs that he has caused, and Euiyoung is treading lightly while he decides if he is going to take him seriously. That story has not finished yet, where we actually have seen how this one ends up. So that is not a fair comparison.
I mean there was more to his redemption arc not just some scenes but I totally agree with what you said. His actions shouldn't be excused and I also see the writing being too rushed and sloppy. I wish they could have had the change to become friends before becoming lovers again.
Exactly and the worst part is that the story dragged on in the most useless way, so it’s not like the issue was time.
Well yeah but like the same thing would have happened to yahwi. Isn't that how a redemption arc works. But it's hard to portray it like that because of the rushed work. I wish the author would have taken its time to work on the progress of their relationship. No actually to work on the progress of them as individuals first. All three of them. And then on their relationships. Would have been perfect like that and to find someone for Cain.
I'm curious to why people actually hate yahwi. Like. Is there a reason or just because. I get you have a fav. Good for you. But what you have with that man. He had his redemption arc and is actually a good person. And yeah redemption arcs don't always mean they're forgiven but saying you hate on him and can't forgive him but not having the same attitude towards taeju from waterside night for example is pretty unfair and shows some hypocrisy. I love both of them and I believe in change. I also really like Cain but not for jooin. His only personality trait would have been dating jooin if they stayed together. They don't have any chemistry and the reason he likes him are superficial. His past self isn't his new self anymore. This is a different person. I really hope to see a side story for Cain and also wouldn't mind one for jooin and yahwi somewhere in the future.