yall are sick wtf. “im a sucker for non con” “non con and good artstyle- perfect!”...

wishing harm upon real people over fictional characters is crazy work, get your priorities in check lol

nono i completely understand them, ngl people who say that shit should see what it’s like to be a person in an unfortunate situation

im not gonna argue in a mangago comment section but most people who are into noncon have been in that sort of unfortunate situation before and use it as a way of coping since it's fiction and harming no one. i hope you grow compassion and understanding to other people (who i wanna reiterate, are usually victims) before wishing harm upon them

theres no way the majority are doing this. I don’t want to normalize non con because it is truly tragic (coming from someone who has experienced it) and I’m not trying to shame people who use it as a coping mechanism but I KNOW for a fact there are more people who fetishize it rather than using it to cope and it is kind of gross to me, especially those who lie about using it to cope.

i've also been through it before, i like coping with it through fiction but everyone is different and just because i enjoy it doesnt mean you have to as well, youre well within your rights to think its gross and weird and to wanna stay away from it but (and as a fellow victim i feel like you should know this) that doesnt make you wishing that kind of harm upon real people any less wrong, its hurtful, especially to other victims, for you to imply that someone would deserve to get raped over a comic you didnt like

bookie butt you ain’t listening. It’s not about not liking a comic. It’s about people who say they are a sucker for rape basically. If you have experienced it, you feel ok within yourself when you or others think “I’m such a sucker for reading comics with fetishized rape!!” That more than just a fucked mindset. It’s not that it’s gross it’s just straight up wrong. The fact you cope with it by reading fetishized rape is a sorry thing. I’m going to tell you this now, that is a negative coping method. It would be weird of us to support negative coping methods than for us to say harsh things about weird fetishizers

it’s always just “fictional characters” when it’s some shit you wanna defend. These situations are real. You said it yourself, you know that. What if rapist read this shit to cope? To cope with the fact that they like raping people. This is straight up wrong man! Seek help and get YOUR priorities straight because it’s twisted hon.

you cooked . I didn’t want to say it was a negative coping mechanism because I don’t want to invalidate anyones feelings but I agree with you. I feel like therapy will help someone realize the coping mechanism that is best suited for them to grow from their trauma. But reading gay smut mangas with crazy intense rape themes and weird mcs that end up with their rapist is wrong. Especially when the author makes them live happily ever after- it sets such an unrealistic standard for relationships built on rape and essentially normalizes it. Rape shouldn’t be normalized and I KNOW for a fact the authors and artists create this shit because its their weird fetish fantasy to draw gay noncon porn- not because they were victims themselves.

no because it’s completely fine to say it loud for the people in the back bro. I’ve gone to a hospital before and they point out negative coping mechanisms and how not to confuse them with positive ones. People just say it’ “invalidates their feelings” because they don’t want to face reality that even taking some time to think to yourself if better than reading fetishized rape of two men (sorry just saying it bluntly). Even if it were man and woman I mean it all the same. They need to wake up.

This was such a progressive respectful conversation I wish all the conversations on mangago where like this lol

Bro thought a certain genre = person in rl. I like gore but does that mean i like to kill people? Wishing that to someone you dont even know is just craxy. Lol..

Ofc. but you are desensitized to it. If you like gore then that means you look for it and it gives you a type
of feeling does it not? It doesn’t mean you like killing people, it does the genre does interest you and make you feel something, even if it’s just thrill. If u read shit about rape it makes you feel at least something. People who read fetishized rape 9/10 aren’t feeling grossed out by it. They feel something and that definitely isn’t what they should be. Gore makes you feel things, non-con makes them feel things. In an all it’s still not right. Though your interest with gore never really had anything to do with this, now did it? This was about people normalizing finding comfort in fetishized rape. Hope this helps lil bro

You’re weird for wishing that on others wtf like even if you think they are wrong and gross (or whatever) doesn’t mean you can just wish random people rape, like wtf???

bro tell that to literally anyone who enjoys murder mysteries, shows depicting drug addiction, true crime podcasts, shows where someone gets cheated on, shows about toxic family dynamics, etc. It's totally normal to consume media that depicts fucked up things for our own entertainment, and this is one of the few non-con/dub-con romances that addresses how what the top did was fucked up and affected the bottom, AND has him genuinely remorseful and redeems himself. It's also a very hard sell to say that ppl who read this would genuinely not take issue with actual irl r*pe. I mean do you personally endorse the lyrical content of every song you enjoy? Touch grass.

idiot: "this story is bad and fucked up because it harms ppl who've experienced actual sa and we need to protect them because their experiences matter"

actual people who have experienced sa: "i like this story and i want to read more"

same idiot: "wow ur so fucked in the head your experiences clearly don't matter"

Wait am I missing something? Most of the comment section seems pretty happy that it's not like how it was in the beginning anymore.

And for the old rape discussion, the real kink is inside the BDSM spectrum and many manga artists don't get how to view it in a healthy way. So they write rape and people enjoy it since it's still somewhat there kink. Simply because it's fictional and the brain can still manipulate it into role play. Still pretty fucked up and not nice for people with real life SA experiences to see. BL has some serious rape and other SA issues. But I'm pretty sure most people who enjoy this feel absolutely disgusted over any real life SA. Still romantacizing tropes like kissing someone in their sleep, which is extremely horrifying in real life is also pretty problematic and could actually make people think it would he ok and romantic if they did this in real life (own experience here, it's a huge break in trust and crossing intimate borders that is definitly not sweet or romantic). So change is definitly needed, a simple safe word would already do a huge deal in most stories. That's why I and many others seem to enjoy how this manga corrected it's wrong ways of the beginning and acknowledges blondis BDSM urges but tries to put it in a healthy manner. At least it's been a while in this comment section since anyone talked good about the beginning as far as I've seen the comments. Please don't behead me if you want to give input on why you don't agree with me. But like, there are reasons on both sides of this argument and people enjoying something and being called evil because of it is not really nice. Many don't even understand what their real kink is and give stupid reasons while actually defend the non-con which is defintily problematic. But as said, most of them are defending their kink in a nonsense argument, but still not real SA. So this discussion fuels itself with arguments that defend or argue in the wrong kind of direction on both sides. This topic is as old as this freaking website, I really hope it someday dies already because authors realise that rape is a shitty thing to write about as something 'erotic'.

Don't remember the name but I read a Yuri once that did it perfectly! They did BDSM role play and while they were at it the whole environment changed and you were sucked inside the setting of their role play story. A really great way to get the immersion and still be healthy! Manga as a medium has so many options to express itself, it's sad to see that so many authors don't use it and write problematic stuff instead.