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It makes me wonder if Ian even still loves TJ or he’s just with him cause he’s used to him being around.
I def think Ian still loves him bc they’ve been in love for quite some time. They just need to learn to love each other how they should’ve without the K35 if TJ will be endgame
I love jo but unfortunately he doesn’t understand the heartache of Ian and TJ
Do you think Ian loves TJ more than he loves Jo(I wanna hear ur thoughts)
Personally I think he does but I a,so think Ian loves them in different ways. Jo has opened him up to what BEING loved is and he’s definitely falling harder for jo but now that he killed again things could go several ways. When it comes to TJ I think he has a much deeper connection. They’ve both been through so much. I definitely sympathize with ian more than anyone but TJ is a close second. They deserve to love each other like they should’ve. TJ and Ian have saved each other from so much but TJ doesn’t know how to let go of his power and Ian. He doesn’t understand commitment. He wants ian to be inky his but sleeps with other ppl. But I definitely think ian loves TJ more in a sense. I mean the ONE time we see ian cry is when he tells TJ that they’re over
I don’t really agree. Well I guess we’ll see if your thoughts are right depending who the endgame is. I personally think you’re really overestimating TJ and Ian(at least at this point) but I depending who he’s end up with will determine who’s right ig. Only time will count can’t wait for the next season
Lol I don’t like TJ that much (I didn’t mean to make it sound like I’m a TJ glazer ) I’m more of a Jo Stan but I just don’t think TJ Js quite as horrible. I hope to see Ian be able to choose a healthier path once the air is clear in Season 3!
Don’t worry, it didn’t seem like you were. I was just saying that I disagreed is all.
Phew okay thank you for stating ur opinion as well I love other ppls views on this story especially
Because imo the fact that he ended things with TJ despite everything and crying about says a lot to me(I honestly didn’t think he’d do it) but like I said we’ll see
Exactly. I’m hoping he’ll be able to open up abt his past and David to Jo
Bro I just wanted to say I’m in love with this thread. One of the only ones I’ve seen with people who aren’t brain dead
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i agree with your statement but disagree at the same time. i agree that ian does love tj more than jo since they've been through so much and have been together ever since all of those shits happened. but at the same time, i disagree. bcs ian and jo's relationship is currently at the process of building up, they've only known eachother for a while so jo defo couldn't beat tj when it comes to who ian loves more. i think time plays a big factor tbh. cs if the endgame is leaning towards jo, then won't their time and experiences together eventually make ian love jo more?
Yes I completely agree with that. I tend to get my words a bit mixed up and I forgot about that comment tbh . I definitely think Ian loves Jo and is already/will grow to love Jo even more. I think Ian has been opened up to a new form of being loved and I hope TJ can heal in maybe side stories and Jo and Ian will be happy. Sorry if my point was in favor of TJ because I definitely like him as a complex character but I heavily dislike the way he treats Ian.
To add on I think that Tj and Ian should’ve been together in another life but due to circumstances they just can’t really work. These characters are very complex and realistic so I get super into wet sand. My opinions have also changed during the period of time I’ve reread it
i love your opinions dw. it's rare to see someone who loves the other ml more but doesn't hate on the other ml and has opinions that makes sense. i don't personally hate tj, i just dislike his fandom so much. they unnecessarily hate on jo on things that tj has done a lot worser(a tj stan said that they hate jo bcs he apparently stalked ian while dissmising the fact that tj literally MONITORED ians every move) anyway, who do you think the endgame will be?(without any bias).
i personally think that jo would likely be the endgame as the story is leaning towards their relationship progression. and im my narrative, jo represents as hope, freedom, and healing to ian. he shows ian a life outside the gang world, he's like a breather that ian needs. and i think he's emotionally growing on jo as we see him open up to jo, letting his guard down
i can imagine tj as the endgame tho but i think (cs i rlly think doyak can execute his character development properly) although theres a low chance in the way i see it. to me, tj serve as a chain that ian is desperate to escape. so if the story goes on the tj route, then jo's character would lose it's purpose. and i think that if ian and tj were to end up tgt, it will be from a form of trauma bond. tj doesn't see ian as a partner but more like an object. he keeps ian tied down by using guilt and manipulating him. he has no interest in ian healing, bcs healed ian have more tendency to walk away. in times where ian feel vulnerable around tj, it is somehow laced with fear and hesitation thats why in rhe way i see it, ian can never truly be himself with tj unlike as he is with jo. bcs in reality, the ian that tj saw in the gang isn't rlly the "real" ian tbh it's just parts of the real ian, as iqn never wanted to be in that gang. and the one that jo is seeing(the ian who wants a normal life and the "gang" ian) is the "real" ian. and to add why they're unlikely and prolly shouldnt be the eg is bcs the longer Ian stays with TJ, the more likely he is to stay trapped in a cycle of violence and self-destruction(unless hell have a full 160° turn and have a VERYYYY BIG charac dev that's well executed).
Exactly. I love TJ’s character and I want him to get an arc where he heals by himself. If he and Ian were to be endgame Jo would be thrown away like you said and I think Jo is too good of a character to just be forgotten. I also lean more towards Jo in preference and in what I think doyak will do. Ian will always be my favorite character though. And I truly will be happy as long as Ian gets his happy ending and is able to heal from his trauma
IANNN. I’m def a Jo glazer but I still love TJ bc he’s not that horrible and him and Ian are both fucked up. Now that Jo has seen the true horror of Ian’s world IM SCARED.
Also I LOVE U JO FOR BEING WORRIED ABT WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO IAN
once again I don’t rlly care who’s endgame as long as they’re all happy in the end. ESPECIALLY IAN. I love Ian so much and I think ppl hate him so much because he does indulge TJ and he is fucked up. But that’s the point of his character. He’s in a horrible emotional dilemma. He stillloves TJ that’s obvious. They’ve had intense feelings of every kind for each other for a long time. TJ has had them since he met Ian. Ian has had them since TJ saved him from his addiction and was the only person there for him after David raped him. They have a connection that will always be there. However, Ian and TJ have both been so fucked up by the K35 that they’re “monsters” as Ian says. They no longer no how to love each other without being consumed by their lust and heartache. That’s whenJo came in and he helped Ian get a grasp on how it is to be truly loved sweetly. With that Ian is now in between Jo and TJ. Ian fucked up by not telling Jo anything really about the K35 but I mean look at what it did to Ian and his first love TJ. He doesn’t want Jo to be hurt like TJ was. At the end of the day Ian blames himself for everything. Being raped, TJ, and his mother. He doesn’t want to ruin Jo but he loves him.
II JUST WANT THEM TO BE HAPPY ALL OF THEM.