noeul save urself from that narcissist omfg 😭

noeul raped yeoreum btw but yeah yeoreum's the narc okkk

omg i didnt even think about thag i thought they were both drunk

they were (?) but in noeul's pov he said he purposefully got him too drunk to do things to yeoreum knowing yeoreum was too drunk to defend himself. and like, its fiction etc and im not the one to be against dubcon/noncon in these fictional settings but its a bit surprising to me how many people forget that i lowkey be feeling bad for yeo bc if this happened irl it would be DEVASTATING yk ?

Did he? Noeul was drunk first even before they started drinking at home. Pretty sure he got him drunk to get a answer out of yeo since thats what he wanted in the first place. And yeo probably did smth crazy to avoid answering and they ended there idk. But honestly i say its good fitting he did that even if he drugged yeo up. Why would you feel sorry for someone who purposefully baited the other person who had a crush on them just for 17 years just cos they wanted to bask in the superiority without commitment? And now that that person is trying to move on they try to hinder and be their center of attention again, regardless if that person is hurting, just to feel that superiority over the other person again? If that aint narcissictic then i guess i dont know what that is.

read his pov and stop defending a rapist. staying friends with someone who likes u doesnt make u a prick. are you insane ?

Leading them on but not actually having any intention to reciprocate doesnt make u a prick?

Also wanted to clarify was the pov that he raped yeo was in chapter 5? When he admitted that he planned to sleep with him? Or are u in some novel spoiler thing that we cant relate about. Cos then since when does planning= rape?

he didnt lead him on bro he never once gave noeul any sort of idea they would date, he acted like his FRIEND because thats what they ARE. he did the nice thing in this scenario, the "mean but necessary" thing is to cut contact, but it's shown that yeo doesnt have many genuine friends except noeul

if you plan to get your friend drunk to rape him, then you do that, yes that is rape. drunk people cannot consent. being drunk is also not an excuse for raping. also, wtf do u even mean by "since when does planning = rape" when they fucked ? if the plan happens, its no longer just planning.

obviously, noeul doesnt see it as rape so he doesnt explicitly call it that, but under every court of law, that is rape.

Hi warning sorry for the long explanation. Not that eloquent and just word vomitted everything. My bad.


Dude, seduction also works If yeo was so drunk that he cant consent, How was he sane enough to dodge a question? But cant dodge a weaker person? That wouldve worked if nouel wasnt drunk himself, druged yeo, or bound him, forced himself upon him regardless. But yeo was on top and was willing in the flashback?? Also, regardless of anything, it wasnt to “purposefully” made yeo drunk. Dude it was his birthday, yeo himself said hell supply the drinks. For all we know, it was yeo who bought those drinks and got himself very drunk in the process. And i meant with planning ≠ rape as in, respectfully, the plan was to “ sleep with yeo” not rape him omg. Initiation and seduction doesnt mean rape, literally meant to get consent, dude, yeo wasnt drunk that he was asleep or inebriated and cant consent, its two drunk adults who got heated and then had sex. What, did noeul blackmailed yeo or smth? If you “plan” to sleep with your boyfriend during a night out when youre both drunk n wasted was it rape? (Arguments aside, im curious if you think like that. Honestly curious, not trying to be mean) Besides, even if it was remotely close to what youre sayin, wouldnt what yeo is doing right now closer to your accusation? Didnt he just forced himself on noeul, kissed him without consent and harassed him with sex all for his fragile ego?

Also, omg just realized that weve been arguing on three seperated threads hahaha.

it is kinda funny haha

getting someone drunk isnt seduction, that is rape. they are not boyfriends, they were friends. it doesnt matter if yeo is physically stronger, he was clearly too drunk to function. if you sleep with someone who inebriated and cant consent, that is rape. it doesnt matter if yeo got himself drunk, noeul had the capacity to think, plan, and carry it out. i dont understand why you are defending this awful behavior. if your friend got you drunk then had sex with you, knowing you did not want it and didnt/couldnt consent, wouldnt you feel violated ? i need you to actually read and evaluate what you are saying because you repeating awful rhetoric and the same things people say to try why prove men cant be raped. "yeo is stronger !" "he bought his own drinks"
and ??? noeul still broke the law

Im srsly laughing rn or facepalming idk. One, u really need to reread the manhwa. Does a drunk initiating constitutes as rape? In what freaking law on what country does that constitute as rape? Have u seen the flashback? Have u actually look at it pixel by pixel? Does yoe’s hand on noeul’s thigh, gripping like his life depended on it looked like he was raped? Srsly it was chapter 5 behind noeul saying he planned it, how come yeo was on top literally tearing noeul’s clothes be rape? Like. How. Srsly. Also why r u acting like noeul wasnt drunk himself when he was drinking way before that time and probably more drunk than yeo? And why r u acting like yeo was inebriated and cant consent, he was tipsy, not blacked out, his drunkeness was probably washed out after noeul asked for his answer. And how did u know yeo didnt want it? He literally remembered everything and wanted approval after if he did well (istg if u say noeul shamed his performance im gonna smack u cos u srsly didnt understand anything). Again u keep on repeating and insisting, defending and babying a narcissist fake friend “too drunk to consent but not drunk to avoid a question” u cant even state facts from the manhwa. The manhwa i tell you. Gosh ur reading comprehension is shit, blinded by the mc’s annoying ass face and childish behavior thinking he cant do wrong. And i didnt say men cant be raped, nor just cos theyre stronger they cant be rape)thats tour words). Do u even understand yeo’s personality at all? He is gullible but he aint docile enough to let be harassed and do nothing. U should really read the story again.

Also, i hope u dont experience a 17 years unrequited love full of heartbreak, hoping, and disappointment, to the extent that ur life revolved around someone who cant even reciprocate. Wouldnt even wished that on my worst enemy.

i literally told you it does. i work in law. i know what im talking abt. it doesnt matter WHAT substance you do or didnt do, if you commit a crime, you did the fuckin crime. drunk driving is illegal, so why wouldnt rape be either ?? are you fuckin stupid ?

and its not drunk initiating, its RAPE. yeo wouldnt have fucked him sober, and he cant consent when DRUNK. you are a massive retard