i’m gonna be nice because it seems you are just ignorant: he has mental illness. that does not make him selfish or rude or an asshole or undeserving of the same kind of love everyone else experiences. someone who is self-deprecating is not “whiny” or “insufferable,” they are hurting. that is not his personality speaking when he is saying rude things or acting coldly to chun sam—it’s his illness. PLEASE be careful with phrasing. i know it was definitely not your intention to belittle or degrade those who suffer from mental illness, but it most definitely came off that way.
It seems you may be the ignorant one on this topic not me .... everything you said about the way he acts is correct, HOWEVER mental illness will never EVER give you the right to treat someone like shit. Obviously we dont know exactly what mental illness he had, but like i stated before, it seemed like he had severe depression. Ive had depression before, but i never allowed it make me treat my loved ones like garbage. Any you probably should reread my statement because not once did i say he did not deserve love, he absolutely does, but he definitely need to love himself before he starts with any one else
Sorry but I agree with the previous comment. You saying he is “self deprecating” in a bad light is very insensitive in my opinion, especially correlating it with being whiny. I don’t fully understand your “whiny” angle because, while I agree he was in his head about most stuff, most of his complaining was internally or done silently (toward the ML). I just find it strange that you insult him for being “whiny” in his head, when he has no safe space to express his worries and feelings to normally. It gives off a very “depressed people should just be happy” attitude to me. Also, the way your later comment came off very passive aggressive (to me). I hope you can be more open-minded with your words and perhaps not be so quick to write off others. Have a nice day
Maybe whiney was not the right term to use , but he literally wasent just "whiney in his head" he verbally abused the vamp kid ALOT out loud....and always poured his anger out on him. And the MC actually did have a safe space..... It was when he was with the vamp kid, but instead of using that security and safety to help himself heal, he used it to let out his shitty behavior. I dont know why yall always skip over this part in my original comment, but once again, I really do under stand why he is the way he is, his dad emotionally and physically abused him for yearss. He also had to watch his abusive dad be caring and loving towards his new sis and step mom when he never got that love at all. All that being said, that is NEVER an excuse for terrible, shitty , asshole behavior,. Yes The vamp was kinda off and bit annoying, but thats understandable because he was super sheltered and didn't know much about the outside world. However, he was always vey nice and very honest with the MC and never did any thing to intentionally hurt him. I would be more lenient on the MC if he was ONLY " self deprecating "(which he is) because that would be absolutely normal for someone in his mental state. But he decides so use his pain to be cruel to the one person that is wanting to help him. I dont know if you or anyone in your life has went through depression or mental illness ( hopefully not) but taking you anger out on some one that didnt do any thing will always make you a shitty person . I honestly think that was my biggest problem with the MC, not even him being whiney.....and yes i was being passive agressive , the previous comment said I was being ignorant but they didnt even know what they were talking about them selvs loool. I hope this clears things up
This was one of the very first bls i read and i couldn't remember why i never reread it...until i did It was mainly due to the mc being the way he is. At first you really feel bad for him because his dad is a piece of literal shit and he has a very sad upbringing, but all throughout the story hes sooo freaking insufferable. hes so whiny and self deprecating it was pmo . Dont even get me started on how he treated the one person who was trying to be good to him, like complete crap( the ml). And before yall get mad, i def still feel for the MC, hes only a high schooler who lost one parent and had to endure abuse from the other one. And on top of that he got done dirty by his first love. He def has some type of pstd/ depression , but i just dont like how his anger is usually directed to the ML who quite literally did nothing wrong. I do still think its worth the read tho especially if you like angst!!