Similar tropes and creatures, but both very nice stories on their own.
Like the way it’s written is different?
There's slavery in that manga??
Yeah, the mc originally wanted to purchase some female slaves as maids remembering a manga he read in his first life, but there were none available so he purchased 2 families. The way slavery works in that book is whenever someone is in debt and they cannot pay it off the government makes them become a contractor to whoever wants work. They can still create their own terms on the contract but they’ll probably try to compromise because they wanna be free. Also this institution doesn’t exactly revolve around abuse but… (¬_¬ )
My glaring issue with it is that totally innocent children will get enslaved along with their parents. Like, the worst way I can see this is their parent could be a deadbeat gambler getting the family into insurmountable debt and the kids get enslaved because their crime was to be made from some dumbass parent. And this really isn’t a totally random hypothetical I thought up because there was a character who got put into slavery because they were a drunkard who didn’t want to pay their debts. Also usually the family is split up when they are sold so “the mc is kind enough to purchase the families as a whole!”…. (¬_¬ )
Anyway that manga was one of my favorites among my years but I felt like I had to drop it because he supported such an institution :/
Oh, I don't think we're talking about the same manga here? The one I'm thinking of is that one, campfire cooking in another world with my absurb skill, with that Fenrir, cute slime, and small dragon. I don't recall there being slavery there, unless it was specified in the novel in the later chapters (which I didn't read yet).
that’s crazy bro
oh i love this manga. cute one
Are you sure it's the same manga?
I don't remember him buying slaves though since all he had was furry animals....Are you sure that's the same manga?
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Yes everyone, it is the book with fenir, the cute slime, and the dragon. Although I will correct myself, this really happened in the light novel. It’s been more than a year since I’ve dropped that manga so I don’t know if they cut that part in the manga but it definitely happened in the light novel
Yeah I do not remember that happening in the manga so it was likely cut. So the manga has just been cute and wholesome.
I read the novel up to the latest edition and regarding for the slaves, yes it’s true but isn’t it more good to the slaves rather than letting them on the other hand of the nobles? He literally bought ALL of them because they don’t want to be separated and bought them everything they need to the point that they feel comfortable of talking back to the MC. It’s also stated that if they have enough money they can regain their freedom and with the amount of money the MC gave to them (more than enough the minimum wage) they can be free after a few years. He also gave them options to learn basic writing and reading, gave them expensive souvenirs because they are his extended family, provide them with better housing (compare to when they are still farmers) and just basically treating them as helpers rather than ‘slaves’. So I can say that slavery in the book (with the MC) isn’t actually that bad as you guys imagined it to be. Sorry if it’s too long, I’m a fan of this work both manga and the novels.
Um, what??? I’m not imagining, children are enslaved in the novel because of their parents mistakes/stupidity even when they didn’t choose to be born from their parents. The kids have no choice, how is that fair to them? I will say the scenario of specifically drunkard parents or deadbeat gamblers creating a situation where their kids would also be enslaved did not specifically happen, that hypothetical was an attempt of giving people a better perspective on why I feel the way I do, but in the book kids do get enslaved on the behalf of their parents debts. In my point of view just hire normal workers, and if you cannot afford that I will look at you funny for supporting such an institution.
Adding more layers, and tell me if this is right, but in the novel isn’t it explained that buying a family is better because they won’t turn on each-other & possibly stay loyal after they are free? Making it so that he went into this with the intention of specifically buying kids regardless of the situation they were forced in due to their parents debts & decisions.
Although it is true that he treated them really well compared to how they would normally be treated (And I can understand how a person without at least a American high school education may have a harder time understanding what still may be wrong with supporting such a system/institution if they personally treat their slaves/workers well whether it is a Japanese character or Japanese author) it’s just that with my education & morals I have a hard time ignoring him supporting such a system/institution that will enslave children on the behalf of their parents mistakes & debts. I wouldn’t have a problem if the children were not paying/working on the behalf of their parents but they are so it is a pass for me.
I don’t know what your education is and especially how old you are, but this system/institution would raise a lot of questions about morality issues to the real world.
Finally, I don’t know if you caught this, but in my comment you responded to, specifically when I quoted about the family thing, I was less poking fun at the mc and more poking fun at the readers glorifying him as generous.
I did not type all of this in an effort to change your mind; I am explaining my point of view while reiterating the facts for you. Believe what you want to, but as an African American it is a pass for me.
Of course, I do see how your perspective is being hold towards the whole scenario but the way you worded it ‘as without slavery’ made it seem like you’re trying to portray the MC in a bad image whereas it is stated in the novel that he only wants helpers in the mansion and help him with his business in secret hence the reason why he decided to proceed is also due to the magical contract of both slaves and to the MC. Isn’t it also stated in the book that families chose to be slaves to not be separated and yes it is unfair the kids are being included in the whole situation but if you’re placing this situation in real situation isn’t this more ideal and safe compare to kids being separated to their parents with high chances that they might face more unfortunate circumstances compare to being with their parents that can protect them? I don’t want to make this as a light topic as you said you’re an african american which I have knowledge of being years of being in the same circumstance before but saying this ‘Making it so that he went into this with the intention of specifically buying kids regardless of the situation they were forced in due to their parents debts & decision’ is not it because the kids are the first one who stand up in front of him and literally begs him to not be separated to their parents? The MC’s intention are only to find helpers of his house and keep his skills a secret and to have cute woman maid (not in sexual way) thus he does not have any reason to also have the kids along with the adults? He even said that ‘but if the kids are begging so earnestly, who am I to complain?’ And you keep saying enslave the kids when the whole books of novel there’s no instance where the MC treated the kids as slaves but only for the kids to help their parents voluntarily aside from when he asked the little boy for computations of the sells of his business when he learned the kid is good at math.
The novel is much closer to an indentured servant system than slavery. Both families are in debt, once they work off their debt they're free to go and there are strict regulations in how they're treated like the magic contracts
And yes he is generous because have you seen like the same person in reality where they bought slaves, give them their own houses bigger than what they had before, provide them with much better living like food and shelter, paying them higher than the minimum wage in that world, pay them to just increase their education, treat them more like an employees, does not force them to anything out of their comfort, give them space where they feel safe and protected and then treat them with respect and kindness? Because if he’s not generous then I don’t know what he is then.
I don’t want to make it seem like I’m trying to justify the whole slavery in the novel but kindly don’t leave out details and info of the whole process in the novel.
I also feel uncomfortable when this situation happens but when you think if this is in reality, where if this MC didn’t decide to go with both families and go with normal workers, what will happen to the families then? They will be surely be separated as no one is richer than the MC that time but the nobles and its not entirely clear if they will be treated like the way MC treated them as the nobles in the novel are already depicted as less evil. If its the kids in that world with the slavery process where they strictly protected by law and magic then this much safer compare to left them behind if its only the parents will be in jail.
Is this South Korea’s watered down version of “Tondemo Skill de Isekai Hourou Meshi” but only without slavery?