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niku March 4, 2025 5:20 pm

YALL he’s just a kid I know he’s a fiction character and all but some of y’all doing the most when hes like what? 6-10 years old in the flashbacks LOL he’s evil as hell but maybe I just got a soft spot for traumatized children… I mean theres gotta be a reason for his deranged behavior. But also he cute like seo-in so in my eyes he’s just a baby too

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    kinda_judgemental March 4, 2025 5:35 pm

    lol wdym there's got to be a reason for his deranged behavior. WE ALREADY KNOW THE REASON. I mean, just being born with a chronic disease and be aware you are basically on your deathbead since birth is enough to mess with your mind, but aside from that your mom is kinda crazy not treating you normally because she's already traumatized by the death of your twin so she treats you like porcelain all the while never letting you forget you might drop dead like your bro anytime. AND THEN she suddenly brings in your replacement, with your face and prancing around all happy and healthy like you'll never be. Honestly I don't blame the kid for turning into satan, as you said too, he's just a kid, he should've been helped through his feelings not left to have them fester. instead I blame the parents. like, i get the mother is traumatized and depressed too, but putting your kid's needs above you if THE obligation as a parent, and she couldn't see the kids's needs because of her own. I would blame the father too, but let's be honest here, he's a NPS.

    chocobuun March 4, 2025 6:04 pm

    Yeah no, that mindset is terrible lmfao. He was not only 6-10 years old and acting evil like that. It went all the way up to highschool, which is old enough to know better.

    niku March 4, 2025 6:05 pm
    lol wdym there's got to be a reason for his deranged behavior. WE ALREADY KNOW THE REASON. I mean, just being born with a chronic disease and be aware you are basically on your deathbead since birth is enough t... kinda_judgemental

    Yeah I mean you just supported my point! Like he’s all messed up because of his upbringing. So seeing people say how they hope he’s rotting in hell and stuff just makes me uncomfortable. Thats all im trying to say. But people are entitled to their opinions and they tend to be more harsh to fictional characters. Just spooked me a little seeing people wishing all sorts of terrible things on a child. tbh I don’t think anyone is to be blamed, but I definitely agree that his parents contributed even more to his trauma! There isn’t a sole contributing factor tho.

    niku March 4, 2025 6:09 pm
    Yeah no, that mindset is terrible lmfao. He was not only 6-10 years old and acting evil like that. It went all the way up to highschool, which is old enough to know better. chocobuun

    Ok but the thing is that he was never taught that. His actions were never exposed to his parents or adult figure that would have showed him what he was doing was very wrong. And on top of that he’s a sick child, so adults tend to be even more lenient. I don’t expect a grown person to behave good just because they’re grown. They need to have been taught it growing up!

    chocobuun March 4, 2025 6:11 pm
    Ok but the thing is that he was never taught that. His actions were never exposed to his parents or adult figure that would have showed him what he was doing was very wrong. And on top of that he’s a sick chi... niku

    That’s a reason for his behavior but shouldn’t be an excuse. Does that justify him being a bully? Beating people up and terrorizing seoin? It doesn’t. I’m just saying, does the brother need to rape or kill someone for you to stop excusing it lmao

    niku March 4, 2025 6:15 pm
    That’s a reason for his behavior but shouldn’t be an excuse. Does that justify him being a bully? Beating people up and terrorizing seoin? It doesn’t. I’m just saying, does the brother need to rape or k... chocobuun

    Babes im deadass just saying that he’s a kid with alot of issues never did I say what he was doing was okay LMFAO PLS bro theres always someone who wants to argue about justification. Honey I ain’t justifying nothing, he’s a broken child which could explain his behavior NOT making excuses for him. There’s a difference. Please stay in school xoxo

    chocobuun March 4, 2025 6:28 pm
    Babes im deadass just saying that he’s a kid with alot of issues never did I say what he was doing was okay LMFAO PLS bro theres always someone who wants to argue about justification. Honey I ain’t justifyi... niku

    “Ok but the thing is he was never taught that” “he’s just a baby too” defending something is also equal to justifying it. You don’t need to explain why he is how he is, we all read the story. It’s just that not everyone feels the need to go out of their way to paint so that the bully only is a “troubled cute kid.”

    You gotta learn that your words imply justification without having to spell it out. You’d know that if you payed attention in class, so kinda hypocritical of you to be saying “stay in school” lmaooo

    kinda_judgemental March 4, 2025 6:33 pm
    Yeah no, that mindset is terrible lmfao. He was not only 6-10 years old and acting evil like that. It went all the way up to highschool, which is old enough to know better. chocobuun

    you do realize I'm not saying that he's innocent right? I literally called him satan. Yeah, people need to pay and take responsibility for their actions, and he's gotta do that too (paying by people not caring that he's dead I guess cuz not much else he can do now), but trying to understand how bad people get to be bad is how we as persons and as society learn not to make the same mistakes again. cuz you know, the kiddo wasn't born evil, no one is, or at least I don't subscribe to that belief. What I was saying, and the same goes for the op, is that we are sorry he became evil when he could not have become that, not that he should be forgiven for the shit he did. learn to read more patiently please, I felt a bit insulted. and also, yeah, i think we all get that there's a difference between knowing better and choosing to do better

    kinda_judgemental March 4, 2025 6:44 pm
    “Ok but the thing is he was never taught that” “he’s just a baby too” defending something is also equal to justifying it. You don’t need to explain why he is how he is, we all read the story. It’s... chocobuun

    explaining it is how you understand what and where it went wrong, not necessarily excusing it. and bunn, don't go there, they can comment in the comment section if they want to, even if it's to explain their understanding of the story. it's what the comment section if for ...

    niku March 4, 2025 7:10 pm
    you do realize I'm not saying that he's innocent right? I literally called him satan. Yeah, people need to pay and take responsibility for their actions, and he's gotta do that too (paying by people not caring ... kinda_judgemental

    thank you finally someone with some common sense

    niku March 4, 2025 7:11 pm
    explaining it is how you understand what and where it went wrong, not necessarily excusing it. and bunn, don't go there, they can comment in the comment section if they want to, even if it's to explain their un... kinda_judgemental

    Frfr! My original comment was literally so unserious too… like I wasn’t even trying to start anything just sharing my opinion.

    niku March 4, 2025 7:13 pm
    you do realize I'm not saying that he's innocent right? I literally called him satan. Yeah, people need to pay and take responsibility for their actions, and he's gotta do that too (paying by people not caring ... kinda_judgemental

    Also youre so good at writing ヾ(☆▽☆) you explain things so well!!!!

    chocobuun March 4, 2025 7:46 pm
    you do realize I'm not saying that he's innocent right? I literally called him satan. Yeah, people need to pay and take responsibility for their actions, and he's gotta do that too (paying by people not caring ... kinda_judgemental

    I wasn’t talking to you. You’re under someone’s comment, which I was talking to them, not you. If I was talking to you, you would’ve seen your reply tagged.

    kinda_judgemental March 4, 2025 7:50 pm
    Frfr! My original comment was literally so unserious too… like I wasn’t even trying to start anything just sharing my opinion. niku

    Yeah, I figured, to me it seemed like you went a bit more on light side because all you saw in the comments was the the dark side, everyone saying evil evil evil, I too tried not to sound so challenging, don't know where it went wrong :))

    chocobuun March 4, 2025 7:52 pm
    explaining it is how you understand what and where it went wrong, not necessarily excusing it. and bunn, don't go there, they can comment in the comment section if they want to, even if it's to explain their un... kinda_judgemental

    Please read all the replies before you comment. I’m replying to THEIR REPLY. Had they just said “I know the brother is wrong, I was just trying to explain why he acts that way” in the first place, I wouldn’t have said nothing. It’s when they replied to me with a whole explanation of defense that made me believe they’re excusing it.

    I explained what happened in the story as well, I said he was a bully all the way until highschool, not just when he was 6 years old. Then @niku said in response: “Ok but the thing is that he was never taught that.” Saying “ok but-“ as a rebuttal implies defending or disagreeing even if that was not their intent, it’s how it will be taken by anyone who know context clues.

    kinda_judgemental March 4, 2025 8:01 pm
    I wasn’t talking to you. You’re under someone’s comment, which I was talking to them, not you. If I was talking to you, you would’ve seen your reply tagged. chocobuun

    I'll take that, you're right, sorry.
    From the initial comment, op didn't seem to me like they were excusing the actions of evil twin, rather giving space for explanation, ergo understanding the evolution, which kinda aligns with my perspective, so i felt a bit defensive, sorry again. still, i think this is more a problem of explaining your pov (op's I mean) than actually thinking the evil twin is excusable

    chocobuun March 4, 2025 8:12 pm
    I'll take that, you're right, sorry.From the initial comment, op didn't seem to me like they were excusing the actions of evil twin, rather giving space for explanation, ergo understanding the evolution, which ... kinda_judgemental

    The thing is, I wasn’t disagreeing with you or the op about the parents being in the wrong. I understood he had reasoning for being that way. It’s just that op’s way of wording, to me, implies that they were defending. Specifically these parts where @niku said: “ YALL he’s just a kid. I mean theres gotta be a reason for his deranged behavior. But also he cute like seo-in so in my eyes he’s just a baby too. tbh I don’t think anyone is to be blamed.”

    “Ok but the thing is that he was never taught that. His actions were never exposed to his parents or adult figure that would have showed him what he was doing was very wrong. And on top of that he’s a sick child, so adults tend to be even more lenient. I don’t expect a grown person to behave good just because they’re grown. They need to have been taught it growing up!”

    ^^ @niku said in response to me pointing out the brother was tormenting and bullying people up until highschool.

    Which, if someone isn’t defending someone being a bully, typically you wouldn’t try to explain how he wasn’t taught that bullying is not okay plus reasonings for why he’s a bully. He knows he’s wrong. It’s why he hides it and pretends to be a good child.

    kinda_judgemental March 4, 2025 8:24 pm
    The thing is, I wasn’t disagreeing with you or the op about the parents being in the wrong. I understood he had reasoning for being that way. It’s just that op’s way of wording, to me, implies that they w... chocobuun

    yeah, the "no one taught him that" didn't work for me either, but I too got the sentiment that everyone in the comments was very black and white, very "omg how evil os he?" so that was where I thought op was coming from, trying to hone in some nuance by stating the opposite exaggerated opinion. but I'll stop now, it feels like I'm playing freelance public advocate which was never my intention:)) anyway this was weirdly nice, I always enjoy talking with other people who also write paragraphs en bulk, even if it's arguing with them ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    niku March 4, 2025 8:31 pm
    The thing is, I wasn’t disagreeing with you or the op about the parents being in the wrong. I understood he had reasoning for being that way. It’s just that op’s way of wording, to me, implies that they w... chocobuun

    I don't know why you're pulling these examples when all I was saying is that he is child, a child that has issues. Never did i ever say that he doesn't deserve the hate or that he shouldn't be penalized for his actions. the things he did are absolutely absurd, especially for a child. It just pains me BECAUSE i know that if his parents had dealt with things differently or if situation was different, he would have never turned out the way he did. it is unforunate in every way. Children are highly impressionable, if not taught between right or wrong they will never learn. specifically, if they never experienced the consquences of their action. No way you disagree with that because that's insane AND THAT'S ALL IM SAYING LIKE HELLOO??? youre bring up all these other things... like im so sorry for feeling bad for a child and not wishing the worse for him. LMFAO BRO youre literally pulling things outta your ass in order to defend a point I DID NOT MAKE.

    niku March 4, 2025 8:35 pm
    Yeah, I figured, to me it seemed like you went a bit more on light side because all you saw in the comments was the the dark side, everyone saying evil evil evil, I too tried not to sound so challenging, don't ... kinda_judgemental

    Your original comment were insightful, it did not feel challenging to me! I just cannot stand when someone twists your points & try to defend something that was never there to begin with. I knew what I was commenting was going to be unpopular that's why I used so many emojis & informal language, like i wasn't tryna start a fight... sorry i feeling bad for the villian??