What's alst
Alien stage. You can find it on youtube ^_^
Ur funny. And what type of character do you mean that you dislike about Till that relates to this mc here? Till already had a crush, he didn’t use Ivan, and they’re really different from each other, including personality wise. And honestly the mc is only acting like that infront of the ml, he knows he is like the rest, using the ml for money and luxury.
Exactly!
I think you are a bit dumb man
I meant the naive fearless type that doesn't get that it just won't happen. It's just not for me, I couldn't care less about the romance in alien stage
Y'all quick to jump into conclusions about me when I'm not even talking about IvanTill (never mention Ivan and romance by the way!) but just him as a character. God forbid someone has an opinion and makes cross comparisons
Honestly me too I'm not really feeling his character and their whole dynamic because there's nothing 'genuine' going on, ML is obsessed with him just because of one tiny act which many MLs also do, but MC is a literal airhead who just feels a bit of a forced 'strong MC'? I don't know but to me ignorant righteousness doesn't equate to a strong character
Dunno if we read the same manhua but he's like that to everyone. All he sees in everything he does is money so far. Also he literally disregards every other factor besides what he believes just like when he dumps a bucket of water to random strangers, vandalizes property just because he dislikes someone a bit, always assumes ML is looking down at him or sabotaging him, slithers his way into opportunities and suddenly goes 360 when presented with money, I don't get why people are mocking the OP at all when they have every right to dislike the MC. Besides I've watched alien stage, they do have lots of similarities including them forcing their way, not reading the environment, having this guy who just swoops in and unconditionally loves them for the bare minimum
Thank you that's literally what I was trying to say. I'm just comparing this one character I dislike to another character I'm not really feeling. They're so hyperfocused on the IvanTill relationship that even when I never mentioned anything about romance or Ivan they think I'm pertaining to that. Wow I can't even dislike character personalities now?? Not everything is about romance lol and if you can't even distinguish that then you have no right to be calling me the 'dumb' one
Till was never the fearless naive type. And this thing is about romance so ofc I would assume you were talking about romance because you mentioned abt treating the ml better.
Yes God forbid you say smt and mention another character from another show, yes I am quick to jump into conclusions, and romance I would say was included naturally bc you mentioned the ml being obsessed with you and you being able to treat him better, also the story is about romance, so I did jump into conclusions
Yes we did read the same manhua, he is like everyone else, I’m saying he is a suck up, I’ve never mocked the op for disliking the mc, I kind of dislike the mc as well, but I’m saying the mc isn’t a pick me boy, instead he’s just a stuck up to everyone including girls and boys because he wants to gain smt from them. And clearly you have been watching alien stage with ur eyes close and only ears opened, Till had never forced his way into anything, he sung, he tried to survive, and basically stayed in his world, and in what world had Till never read the environment, you seem him 3 times total, his round, Ivan’s round, and his last round, not once had he not ‘read the environment’, and that ‘having a guy just swoops in and love them unconditionally for the bare minimum’ is the only similarities that isn’t even in their control?? Ivan loving Till is none of Till’s fault, and Till literally gets beaten up and sa’s so it’s no wonder he gets at least a bare minimum of help, also yes Ivan gets the bare minimum because Till doesn’t like him, he never knew until Ivan died, so literally none of them are similar. The mc here is poor, he openly uses people, but forcing his way? As in what? Trying to save the ml from stabbing him self on the stage in front of everyone?? Like what? And no, I dislike the mc a bit but they are nothing alike?? If your gonna compare at least make it someone who is alike, and no, one is mocking them.
No one is mocking the op*
Ok? Just because YOU think they aren't similar doesn't mean WE can't think that way. We already said why we think he's similar to Till in our perspective and YES Till is the naive fearless type because he always pushed his own way through without considering the consequences such as him literally always defying the aliens and then always proceeding to be punished for it HE NEVER READS THE ENVIRONMENT AND DOES WHAT HE WANTS. So it might be his personality sure but I'm saying I don't like that personally. And yes people ARE mocking the OP "You're funny" - basically already mocking their opinion "I think you are a bit dumb man" - It's self explanatory are you blind?? You're pointing out points where they aren't similar and IM pointing out things where they are similar. We're not even talking about the things you mentioned!
1. Ivan starts to love Till for one reason and keeps loving him despite receiving the bare minimum from him - ML loves MC just because of one incident and keeps loving him despite being used, mocked, and done bad things to by the MC (vandalism, talking badly about him, trying to destroy his clothes) he also gets the bare minimum of interaction from him which keeps him in love
2. By swoops in I meant loving them and being there no matter what stupid shit they do without feeling anything about it even though it would be a massive "Are you stupid?" reaction if they were a real person.
3. Both Till and MC disregards what happens to the people around them a lot of times and pushes what they want. Till sang whatever he wanted rather than the arranged song essentially killing his opponent without even giving them a chance to live -- MC was about to cut up MLs costume which will cause ML to flash the audience and essentially bring him into a negative spotlight which can affect his whole career badly.
4. They both have no regards for consequences or the environment they're in and still does whatever they want. Till constantly defies the aliens and does as he please despite then literally having absolute power over them then get jumpscared when he's punished. MC keeps on crossing paths with the rich and MLs career for example when he vandalized ML's poster and got surprised as to oh woe is me why did I get punished for my own actions by his fangirls!! They both ignore obvious consequences and proceed to do what they please.
Honestly you're tiring to speak to because you keep twisting words just to prove we're wrong about OUR OPINION. Even if it's something minor A SIMILARITY IS A SIMILARITY. Gosh, just accept that you're not right about everything and that people can have different interpretation for things that are THEIR OPINION
People might interpret their personalities differently and in a way Till might be strong, but in this context we don't view it that way, and in the first place I don't even like Till.
Did I mention about his romance with Ivan??? I literally specified his 'character'. Who cares if the story is romance not everyone is talking about that all the time I can literally refer to anything else.
I did mention that I did assume. In that case you want a sorry so I can be clear? I’m sorry that I assumed and I already give you the reason why I assumed. And I don’t get what you mean by, ‘who cares if the story is romance’ the whole point of this manhua is abt the romance so I would expect everyone to talk about the romance or anything related to it.
Bro be so fr, you stated that the mc and still are the same, you’ve never said in ur opinions, none of yall said in ur opinions or made it clear either way. He never reads the environment and wanting to not be controlled and get sa is literally not the same. And no sayinh someone is funny is not mocking them, I meant it genuinely that what the op said was funny about the demonstration of pick me for the mc in this manhua, and are you blind urself? I’m refuting against the claims that ‘makes the mc and Till the same’ because in no way is it even close to the same. And yes you are talking about the things I was saying bc that is what I was responding to.
1. Yes ur correct like I said, the ml likes the mc and Ivan likes till for the bare minimum because they chose to, also it’s pretty obvious that mc and ml had known each other in another life and the ml is obviously gonna keep pursuing mc.
2. Till never had a ‘are you stupid situation’ where Ivan ‘saves’ him. And where has the ml ever saved mc in this situation yet?
3. Till is a life and death situation, yes that makes his dislikfull as he switch the song to his benefit but in the end one of them was going to die anyways, shit idk what to say about the mc here, never said he wasn’t a bad person so I’m just leave that dude alone
4. Okay I can see and understand four, but would you really wanna get controlled under a bunch of ugly aliens
The last one, yes I did admit to my mistakes and said that I was assuming and the reason why I assumed, and I’m not even tiring to speak buddy? We spoke ONCE this is gonna be the second time, I’ve never really took this srs, I clearly asked and y’all got all defensive, and yes the first sentence about ‘you’re funny.’ Is to show that I thought it was hilarious they said such think and I was just asking why they thought mc and Till were the same and I pointed out some reasons why I don’t think they were the same. If it really was an opinion I’d rather you might as well say it in their sentences if they’re just gonna post a comment for everyone to see. And GOSH you uppercasing these letters are really not helping, this shit is hilarious.
Also someone saying, ‘I think ur dumb man’ isn’t really mocking, they straight up said it, and said ‘I think’ so just take it lightly buddy
Boy be obsessed with me instead I'll treat you better than this MC ever could he reminds me of Till from ALST and I don't really like his character THE MC IS LITERALLY THE MALE VERSION OF "IM NOT SCARED OF YOU IM NOT LIKE OTHER GIRLS"