Y'all I've a question..is this considered as 🍇?I can't understand it fully...the uke se...

I would say it is tbh. Emotionally getting manipulated to have sex in order to gain your partner's love should be considered , doesn't it?

It is one of those philosophical question where everyone's answer is correct from their perspective.
So if non consensual sx is considered grape then it's not grape. But he is not being manipulated he has to consent to it to be with ml who's taste are rather weird. Mc has a choice and he choose to do it with others to stay with ml. That's my explanation to why I won't consider this grape.

Legally no I don’t think so. Morally? Personally yes. Especially if MC DIDNT know that’s what he was getting into when he started dating ML, which is the vibes I’m getting. It def seems like MC is gullible and in need of attention that ML caught onto and is manipulating for his needs. I’m gonna keep reading bc I like this author (maybe not after this story tbh) but I’m not sure how they can resolve this to make ML likable.

Well, we do have a the genre „dub con“ which might answer this … anything which isn’t 100% consensual is imo really really questionable, but as soon as something hits the dubcon mark, it’s rape to me ….

Same. That’s why I don’t read dub con. Its def one of those moral quandaries about media and whether it glorifies/encourages bad behavior

Yes, I agree … I read everything that seems interesting and sometimes there is rape involved - I don’t mind it too much but I do think everyone should consume their media right.

Whenever the question of „is this rape?“ pops up, I just think that: if u really have to question it, is it consensual then? Alone the fact that it’s already there is already an answer haha ;;

And back to the topic: MC isn’t manipulated, yes, but he is definitely PRESSURED to. Even if it’s for his own ig „love“ for ML, it’s not really originating from himself…