actually even after rereading the novel multiple times I still don't support the seme nor sympathy with him , and I wish the uke would have gone to the police or seek some professional help and not end up with the seme , he not with him out of love but fear , and he afraid of being abandoned by the seme and thrown back to those men , he is mentally broken and basically disabled mentally and unable to make decissions for himself , in court of law he wouldn't be held responsible for his past actions and would be admited into facility for treatment , while the seme actions of abusing mentally ill person would lead him straight to jail , the uke past actions is unexcusable as well but his crimes compared to the seme crime in persent is not equal
Honestly he lost my sympathy when he did the same shit to MC. Beat him up till he’s almost dead I guess but rape, cmon, don’t stoop to the same level.
But the difference is the uke did what he did when he was minor and immature and influenced by the gang life he lived, he was delinquent who handed with gangs and basically he seem to be orphan and didn't grow up in right environment, while the seme had basically normal loving two parents home and he rich his only flaws was crossing pass with the uke and became his frined/follower and even his mom warned him not to hang out with him but the seme was also just kid and immature.
The seme could have took the uke to court and get him charged with rape back then but he didn't and actually was already moving on from him and wanted to forget everything and move on with his life until that other gangster influenced him and convinced him to take revenge on the uke.
And when he went to approach the uke in hospital when he learned that he had amnesia he wanted to start over as if nothing happened so in my opinion the seme wasn't as traumatized by his past as he want to convince us that he doing this revenge cuz the uke basically ruined his life, and he doesn't even seem to care about his mom like that, in reality the seme just sadistic who enjoy toying with the uke and it seem people forget that in first few chapters when he first raped the uke, he mentioned how it's more fun when they resist this not first time. E he raped someone and raping the uke just make it guilt free for him cuz he can justify his action by claiming he taking revenge
They both raped regardless of age, end of story.
Your comment genuinely took me by surprise! How can you claim he wasn't as deeply traumatized by his past as he wants us to believe? Age doesn't change the reality of what he’s endured. Rape is rape!!!
Unlike the uke, seme was a child. Do I really need to elaborate on how childhood trauma can reverberate throughout a person's entire life?
He really should have considered seeking therapy, especially given the tragic circumstances that shattered his rich family—leaving him isolated and unsupported. Anyone in his shoes might understandably resort to thoughts of revenge rather than finding a way to heal and move on. Just take a moment to think about how challenging it would be for someone to pick up the pieces and move forward after everything he has faced.
Influenced by others or not, both characters are the worst (human) beings!!!
They are struggling in their own way. One was driven by a desperate need to start something, while the other, hoping to put an end to the chaos, found himself caught in a web he didn't see coming, trapped and longing for a way out.
So they both don't deserve sympathy!!
On the other hand, both characters don't deserve what they went through.
Thank you. Both stooped low, both didn’t deserve rape.
I come to that conclusion that he wasn't really traumatized as he want us to believe cuz the story not cux I tried to analysis this from realistic veiw, in the story when he went to visit the uke after he got hit in his head and realized that he had amnesia, he thought he can start over with the uke and only cuz he realize that even when the uke loss his memory he didn't really change and he was at risk of being raped again he then felt fear and escaped, also he initially didn't even want revenge but the other gang guy who hated the uke convinced him of seeking revenge only when he realize that the uke didn't remember him cuz he wasn't important memory did he get obsessed with making the uke his and unable to live with out him, this all didn't seem like person who was traumatized but just someone who was obsessed with making uke live in way that he is center of it, also it was implied the seme actually raped and abused other people before he rape the uke, when he first raped him he said it's not fun when they not react, he is sadistic and he just using the past he had with the uke to justify his brutality, this not traumatized person behavior, if the seme was traumatized he wouldn't want to inflict same kinda pain on others even in form of revenge.
Do you believe everyone shows trauma?
No, the seme did not violate anyone in the past. His words stem from his personal experiences, and implying otherwise is a projection of your own imagination. Throughout both the novel and the manga, there is no indication that he has engaged in any such actions. He is merely expressing the struggles of his own experience.
If you reflect on your own comment, you'll notice that your own comment highlights the profound trauma the seme has endured. He finds himself unable to move forward in life without the presence of the person responsible for his fate and his family. In the final chapters of the novel, he makes it clear—both directly and indirectly—that he has attempted to move on, but the weight of the past is too heavy for him to bear. This is a perfect situation of the need for therapy, unfortunately he had no one during this darkest moment.
His quest for the uke is driven by his inability to forgive or forget the pain of betrayal. This is how the seeds of revenge take root in one’s mind and heart. His thoughts are consumed by the memories of the person he once loved and the betrayal of the same person. This embodies the core elements of trauma, and it perfectly shows his emotional state and the lasting impact of his experience.
No one can truly move forward from such a harrowing experience without the support of therapy or professional help. If you believe he has moved on and wishes to start anew with the uke, then you're living in a fantasy. That’s simply not how reality works! He has not moved on! What he seeks is an explanation from the uke—he craves understanding of why he did everything; he yearns for an apology.
Now, let’s say that he has somehow moved on (an unlikely miracle). In that case, he would intentionally avoid every situation that could lead him to cross paths with the uke. Yet, he does precisely the opposite. Why? Because he is trapped in the web of his trauma. His experiences compel him to seek out the uke, to demand answers, to uncover the truth, to secure the apology he feels he deserves. When he finally encounters the uke and learns of his amnesia, the seme's unresolved trauma drives him to stay close, even in deep down he is still searching for the explanations I mentioned earlier. He wrestles with anger and disbelief over how and why the uke seems to have forgotten the pain he caused.
Girl, he never truly moved on! This is the harsh reality! You’re attempting to sugarcoat his experiences as if was nothing. Uke should held responsible for what he did, unfortunately seme followed his path and now both are in abyss. (In simple words, both don't deserve any sympathy. Both need therapy)
I won't explain any further; this should be common sense. It's important to understand both sides of a story. Authors often do not provide every single detail, so it’s up to us; readers to delve into the narrative and grasp the complexities of each character's motivations and depths.
I really tried to explain things as best as I could! It should be common sense. Now, it’s up to her to take in what I shared. If she's not familiar with how trauma works, I hope she gives it some thought and finds a way to understand.
Oh don’t even worry, you articulated your words really well. I think it’s just bias.
After reading the novel, you'll likely find yourself reconsidering whom to support, as neither character truly merits your sympathy.