I wouldn't go so far as to say spineless. I think the implication is that he's actually similar to the ML, in that they are both a little unreasonably obsessed with the other but it manifests in them differently. Yeongwoon is aware that he's using his job and s*x to stay close to the ML, even though it would've been much easier to cut his ties. Huh, i guess it does sound a little pathetic, but it doesnt irritate me like other MC's bc at least he's conscientious of his own reasons
what despicable acts? im drawing a blank.
Did you have blindfold... When you read it?
bruh wdym, he didn't treat yeongwoon well until end of s1 really when he discovered he was on anxiety pills. He SAd him, and was constantly manipulating him, and other people around too - lk now, he wants him around cuz he wants to see him run frantically because he feels like that's the only proof that he cares about him. Even though if he actually spoke up, things would go better.
I think one nuance to consider that even Yeongwoon acknowledges is that he doesn't have to stay. He's aware that Seo-In is manipulating him(tho not the reason), but chooses continue their sexual relationship and manager role because it essentially gives Yeongwoon the 'right' to have a say in Seo-in's private life and stay close to him. I'm not saying the ML is a green-flag, consent king, but he's not so bad as other ML's that lord something over the MC. He's just got an asshole-ish personality and is probably too aggressive in bed. But overall I'd still consider it a 'trade'. Seo-In basically agrees to cut off his drug and sexual exploits with others in exchange for Yeongwoon committing his time and focus. Again, the MC doesn't have to engage in any dynamic with him and can cut it off at any time but what he wants is for Seo-In to remain exclusive(as mentioned before, neither parties are very reasonable with what they want from the other)
lmao i reread s1 there was no sa. if you call manipulating and not treating somebody well somehow "despicable" you're either naive or incredibly sheltered. not tryna excuse the dude but he ultimately felt like yeongwoon left him abandoned when nobody else was there for him, so him not treating him well when he met him again isn't unrealistic if you look at the story objectively. the way you word your shit you'd think the guy killed somebody
and yeongwoon is very aware of seoin's tricks, he isn't some naive little boy. let's refrain from diminishing to the story to a concept that's black and white so it fits a narrative
whatever upto u if u think what he did is not too bad, but I never spoke about yeongwoon being innocent or anything like that. He is also very much aware of seoin's attitude to a certain extent and decides to stay anyway. But that doesn't reduce the wrong on his part because of that.
oh so anything less than murder isnt despicable?? lmao SA and manipulation isn't despicable enough for you?? okay garlic. to each their own ig.
Calling out toxic behavior doesn't make anyone "incredibly sheltered".
yep. all of that.
that's valid and I can agree with that. I called him pathetic because he's willingly staying in the situation and put up with shit because of his feelings. That just makes him human.. his intentions aren't to hurt anyone, or to manipulate, abused, or use anyone for personal gain. The same can't be said about blondie bitch.
Yeah its an interesting dynamic bc usually, MC's that dance to the ML's tune gets tiring really fast. I think what makes Yeongwoon likeable is not just that he is openly aware and continuing this dynamic with Seo-In, but also that he's actually being a little selfish with it. He wants exclusivity from Seo-In and technically has no right to demand it but also is still maintaining some emotional distance from the ML to protect himself(a valid choice given his POV of their past).
In a way, Seo-In is probably more pathetic. His fear of his loved ones pulling makes him push boundaries with the MC and is also what's misleading others. But i do think that once the air between them is cleared, he has the potential to be a decent green flag.
yeah so you disregarded the fact that i didnt say sa was despicable. lets not put word in other people's mouth.
didnt say sa was not*
idc about his sob story. he's committed despicable acts and there's no justifying the shit he, and his family, have done to mc. But mc is clearly pathetic and spineless so...