Ok so his idea of being family together was never about growing and being happy together b...

Slytherinlarrie June 12, 2025 9:21 pm

Ok so his idea of being family together was never about growing and being happy together but about tearing him down and being miserable together,,, from the start he never considered J's pain as real but as just some light shit a rich kid complains about while only his pain is real, like if you really thought that from the start, if toi didn't see you both being equals and only thought "he's a privileged kid crying over nothing" then why did you cling to him as friends? And you yourselves set up the plan that J would start going along with everything his dad says and pretend to be the good son to have an easier time at home till he can leave it behind and go once he's an adult bit then suddenly you're annoyed he acts like his dad wanted and you risk your long term plan by showing up at his house, and then orchestrate this bullying crap? At this point WHY should he choose you when you're worse than his dad? At least he has to deal with dad cause he's dependent on him as a child and can't run away, what reason does he have to be with you when you're like that? When you're doing it out of malice weaponizing against him everything he shared with you as a friend,

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    Slytherinlarrie June 12, 2025 9:58 pm

    Right, like dude high schoolers aren't toddlers, they're very much capable of conscious malice, I get it he's had it rough but let's not act like he's innocent, he knew exactly what he was doing to Jinyeong, he was doing it BECAUSE he knew how much it would hurt him, that's literally the whole point, he's doing it to cause him damage, and this wasn't even his dads abuse vs J's dads abuse, he was lashing out about his treatment at school by higher classes BUT HES DOING IT TO THE PERSON WHO WAS ON HIS SIDE FROM DAY ONE, and you're right he couldn't even deal with J's dad from one moment meeting, so how does he imagine he treats J that has to deal with him all the time? The man literally broke your laptop gave it back to J to give back to you and told him to cut ties,,, social norms didn't stop him from breaking something that doesn't belong to him so how do you think he treats his son as his property?? Is he mad that J didn't publicly defend him at school or something? He hung out with him publicly till J's dad made them break up so he had to stay friends only secretly, he wants j to realize the pain he goes through?? He gets it, cause he empathized with you from the start, he didn't need to have a worse time to side with you, he didn't need toi to hurt him to side with you, you were the one that felt no empathy for him from the start and saw him as some rich kid with no real problems just cause "they weren't on your level of problems", if you didn't feel like you related then why did you start a friendship with him from the start instead of pushing him away cause you don't think your problems are the same??? From the start there was no empathy from him for J and then to turn around and use what J confided in him to hurt him? That's LOW

    ame June 12, 2025 10:08 pm

    You summed my thoughts up perfectly I love you

    Nikita June 12, 2025 10:53 pm

    That is not true. In the first place before Jinhyung (idk how to spell…) said that his “real family” is his dad, Rik actually wanted to EARN MONEY ON HIS OWN to afford college bills FOR JINHYUNG. He saw Jinhyung as an equal before. The reason why he turned 180 is because he saw that their affection is not the same. “The 50,000 won Jinhyung spend on Rik was never the same as Rik spending 50,000 won on Jinhyung”. He believes that his affection to Jinhyung is earnest and desperate meanwhile Jinhyung was just playing. He feels that it’s unfair that in the end of the day he will be the only one fool getting too deep into this “play”. That’s why rn he’s trying to hurt Jinhyung. He didn’t sincerely want to downgrade Jinhyung before, so stop making it look like he’s some kinda villian or smth (not validating his actions though)

    Slytherinlarrie June 12, 2025 11:29 pm
    That is not true. In the first place before Jinhyung (idk how to spell…) said that his “real family” is his dad, Rik actually wanted to EARN MONEY ON HIS OWN to afford college bills FOR JINHYUNG. He saw J... Nikita

    That's the thing tho he thinks J has to be desperate with no other options left for his affection to be real which isn't true, and even that is rooted in him believing J just doesn't have it all that bad in his own circumstances, that he's not desperate and not treating Rik as his only true friend,

    If he thought the friendship sincerity wouldn't be the same he could've just not started the friendship from the start, it literally started from sharing their circumstances so it's not like he found that out later,,, either way that's a resentment he carried from the start no matter how willing he was to fantasize about that future being together if it was this easy to have a 180 and go this low to hurt him

    He hurt him to say "see this is what I go through so you gotta go through it to feel what I feel" except J KNOWS how it feels cause that's what J goes through at home, but Rik thinks it somehow only affects him what he goes through at school but somehow doesn't affect J what he goes through at home?

    and J didn't say he'd choose parents over him, only thought about the possibility of having both, Rik is conscious about it all enough to realize J having a change of mind was only about him still having hope that maybe his parents would change and treat him well just cause he had a little taste of them treating him well, he knows this cuase be felt the same before but he himself already came to the realization that hoping for that is useless, he COULD try talking to J and making him realize the temporary well treatment isn't real and they're only like that cause he's moulded himself to go along with their expectations and the "him" they like and are treating well isn't actually HIM, that he shouldn't start raising his expectations from the parents cause this is temporary and the only reason he started acting like their dream child was to have a temporary shield till he's adult and can get away, that their well treatment is never to his true self, instead he took it personally as another betrayal like his mom and decided to hurt him back, let alone with the same shit J told him his father hurts him with, that's deeply malicious

    I'm not saying he was an evil mastermind from the start, but he wasn't exactly rainbows and sunshines sincere either if hes capable to go this low JUST CAUSE J said he'd like to have both family and him if he can, he collected everything he's mad about about everyone else and threw it at J, he had choices to make and he chose this

    Nikita June 13, 2025 11:04 am
    That's the thing tho he thinks J has to be desperate with no other options left for his affection to be real which isn't true, and even that is rooted in him believing J just doesn't have it all that bad in his... Slytherinlarrie

    "I'm not saying he was an evil mastermind from the start" Okay, stop right there. I don't know why you're trying to explain that his actions are wrong when the argument was about you actually saying that Rik did wrong from the start.

    "his idea of being family together WAS NEVER about growing", "FROM THE START he never considered J's pain as real" those are your quotes

    He wasn't doing nothing wrong from the start. And this whole "family" charade was started by J. Just for him to say in the end that his dad is his real family. Throwing aside everything they have planned together.

    I'm not validating any of Rik's actions, because in the end of the day he did bad. And he could've done better. But saying that he was like that from the start just invalidates his whole character and dilemma.

    If you didn't mean that you should've chose your words carefully

    Slytherinlarrie June 13, 2025 12:38 pm
    "I'm not saying he was an evil mastermind from the start" Okay, stop right there. I don't know why you're trying to explain that his actions are wrong when the argument was about you actually saying that Rik d... Nikita

    Bro I'm saying he wasn't malicious from he start but he did carry resentment of their class difference and his inferiority complex, he wasn't tryna fuck him over from the beginning but he didn't see J's problems as worth complaining about and thought he's the only one with real problems, are we reading the same thing cause even ch 61 is saying exactly what I'm saying