What really makes me sad is that the community would not be upset about this super obvious...

cutekittensmeow June 19, 2025 3:21 pm

What really makes me sad is that the community would not be upset about this super obvious grooming if the guide was the top. There are countless, literally countless, manhwa where the child is the top and everyone thinks that's fine. It turns out the community only sees grooming when the child is the bottom. Is that homophobia or misandry?

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    Venven June 20, 2025 2:13 am

    They are equally bad.
    I want to say why but i'll prolly end up writing essay about that lol.
    I'll just say it's the result of common problematic tropey about top/bottom role and reader projection.

    LeRain June 20, 2025 7:48 am

    OMG YES, I HAVE SEEN SO MANY STORIES THAT HAVE GROOMER AS THE BOTTOM AND PEOPLE DON'T CARE.

    Kana Soba June 25, 2025 4:53 am
    OMG YES, I HAVE SEEN SO MANY STORIES THAT HAVE GROOMER AS THE BOTTOM AND PEOPLE DON'T CARE. LeRain

    Ngl the boundary between a puppy boyfriend and one you made yourself has gotten thin around here. I care it’s just I analyze them differently.
    Personally I Rate them in rank of permission.
    - If the person was raised from before they were 12 negative
    -calling the younger dude baby or innocent and pure is -2000 points
    - If the initiator wasn’t the youngest I don’t want it. *Drop the story*
    - if the older person is in turmoil over it and doesn’t instantly go with it +1
    - if they aren’t actually related and if they r legal … now ig? already.
    - I don’t wanna see the seggs
    -I don’t want to see the younger one say no in the bedroom and they keep going.
    - no crying fuck it. This trope ruins the tear trope any liquid -1000 points.
    U know what this trope starts with a -50 stars because sometimes it doesn’t have to be creepy a messed up. Sometimes it’s sweet but it’s rare and I don’t wanna see it. As often as I do now

    LeRain June 25, 2025 7:55 am
    Ngl the boundary between a puppy boyfriend and one you made yourself has gotten thin around here. I care it’s just I analyze them differently.Personally I Rate them in rank of permission.- If the person was r... Kana Soba

    To me it’s basically always a no if one of the parties is groomed. With bottom groomers, authors usually try to make them look all innocent, which is what bothers me a lot.

    Kana Soba June 25, 2025 8:49 am
    To me it’s basically always a no if one of the parties is groomed. With bottom groomers, authors usually try to make them look all innocent, which is what bothers me a lot. LeRain

    It’s the childlike think I don’t like. Y do they have to look 10 dating a 30 year old man with a linebacker build

    LeRain June 25, 2025 9:37 am
    It’s the childlike think I don’t like. Y do they have to look 10 dating a 30 year old man with a linebacker build Kana Soba

    Lmao yeah that is common too.

    I swear I was normal July 2, 2025 9:01 pm

    It can't be misandry or homophobia because it's two men regardless. I think it has more to do with how the relationship is portrayed. Here it sounds really odd how the older one is being intimate with him and helping him out even when he was a child. But the older uke ones I know or ever heard of always consisted of the older one caring for the younger, while the younger one develops the feelings and obsessiveness which he acts on after he grows. That's not how this is portrayed, it's clear that the older seme here took advantage of the ukes age to get him attached to him, this bad intention is not something you find with the works of age switch manhwas, probably to keep the uke the innocent ones. Blame the authors or moreover, don't blame anyone, who are we gonna blame anyway

    Tehez August 16, 2025 8:30 pm

    THIS!! A lot of times I've seen people justifying the bottom groomers sayin 'o! he reared him up as his brother or what not, his intentions blah blah' but tbh theirs intentions always seemed sketchy to me no matter how innocent author wants to make them bcuz i've analyzed the groomer top and the groomer bottom has completely different behaviour but the community here only makes deal out of tops. I mean most of us here women reading them I can get why they pissed but sometimes they be over using the grooming word on tops while completely ignoring bottom groomers.