i just disagree with the "shit like these are what fuels rapists to do that shit they do" nope. they are obviously mentally ill and they will act nevertheless of the content they engage with. fiction is not the reason for their disgusting actions, because then we go again with the debate of "violence in games makes people kill irl," when we know that's not true—people who are mentally ill just need a justification and something to point at.
this is obviously a fetish, kink content for people who like that kind of content. nobody in their right mind will romanticize or justify this irl.
"violence in games makes people kill irl" and it does. Especially the ones who glorifies murder and makes it seem like fun and doesn't put the disclaimer of "this is just a game scenario,don't try this irl"
1.Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 13 people and injured 21 at Columbine High School in Colorado. Both were avid players of the game Doom
2.Adam Lanza killed 26 people, including 20 children, in Connecticut. Reports noted he owned many violent video games.
3.16-year-old Daniel Petric shot both his parents in Ohio, killing his mother, after they banned him from playing Halo 3
4.16-year-old Evan Ramsey killed two people (a student and principal) at his Alaska high school with a shotgun. He played Doom and later said he thought shooting people would be like in the game, where “they would get back up.”
5.14-year-old Michael Carneal killed three students and injured five at his high school. He was a fan of violent media, including games like Doom and Mortal Kombat.
And there's more lol, and Yeah i had to ask chat gpt to search for these cases through various articles,now you got your answer
And yes it fuels potential rapists and incels to try this irl, there's literally a living example of an incel in this comment section who thinks that "it's everyone's dream"and i had legit this convo with a guy before who had commented "she must have enjoyed it" under a gangrape victim's post and when i called him out his reply was "but my friends read stuffs like this all the time and say their dream is to get graped by hot men" i was flabbergasted.yes mentally ill people just need justification but you can't deny the fact that "fiction that glorifies rape" has an obvious impact on reality,it desensitises even normal people.
"I asked chatgpt" now that's depressing. you just contributed to less water to the world for a simple search that's very easy since those are popular cases over the years.
All the people you mentioned were mentally ill, were autistic, had anger issues, etc. My point still stands—they were mentally ILL. They couldn't distinguish fiction from reality because they were mentally ill and tried to justify their actions by trying to point the blame at these games. You're essentially saying that we can't enjoy games with violence because it makes us killers by the examples you are giving.
The people you talked about are 100% minors who say the most stupid shit over shocking media. There's always someone who says "i wish that were me". This is porn, and porn gets shared with teenagers. Teenagers are still developing their frontal lobe and some don't have a critical thinking capability way later that other people, so obviously they will say shit like this while other don't. Remember that kids still are growing and they may not be "normal," like the examples you gave. That's why as a parent you need to be involved in what your kid does, even if it's invading their privacy.
No one sane will make what they read real. Again, they are people who don't want to take the blame for their own actions. Nobody made them do anything but themselves. This kind of media (as shocking and gross as it is) is made from adults for adults, not kids. This is also a clearly porn site, so there will be a much diverse content.
Oh, so we’re just going to pretend violent media has zero influence because "only mentally ill people act on it"? That’s a lazy excuse. These criminals didn’t exist in a vacuum,they immersed themselves in games and forums that glorified killing, reinforcing their warped fantasies. When media portrays violence as consequence free and thrilling, it doesn’t just reflect reality,it fuels it for those already on the edge.
And let’s not pretend this is just about "games for adults." Kids will access this stuff, and when they do, it warps their perception. A teenager thinking gunshot victims "get back up" like in Doom or joking that rape is "everyone's dream" isn’t just "edgy humor",it’s desensitization.it's crazy how first you justified rape fetish and now you're justifying rape jokes on real victims as "edgy humour" ,Violent porn, incel forums, and hyper-violent games normalize brutality, and when unstable minds consume it, they don’t just snap,they follow the script they’ve been fed.
You can’t handwave this away with "personal responsibility." Yes, they made their own choices,but these type of media enables them. When media treats rape as a fantasy or murder as a power trip, it doesn’t cause violence in a vacuum, but it sure as hell validates it for those already broken. Pretending otherwise is just denial.
You just keep repeating the same "mentally ill" and "fiction not real" to make yourself sound right,you said fiction doesn't impact reality and i gave you an example on how it does and now you're diverting from the topic and coming to the square one,you said those criminals were autistic,had anger issues etc etc like every autistic kid goes around killing after playing violent games that glorifies murder, plus it's nowhere mentioned that they were mentally ill and autistic.
Oh and not you calling me using chat gpt depressing when you yourself keep copy pasting all your paragraphs from chat gpt lmfao, don't try to lie cause I know how chat gpt writes lol
PFFFF. I don't know what made you so aggressive, LMAO. I guess me disagreeing with you on something made you irk instead of talking like an adult (which you are not, i'm guessing.), so this is going to be my last response to you because you can't handle different opinions, even when I've been nothing but expressing an opinion lmao. Also, you sadly using chatgpt doesn't make others' comments and vocabulary something that chatgpt makes. I'm not a native english speaker, so? it would be much better if you can formulate your own comments and inform yourself better by using the search engine rather than keep wasting water and contributing in contamination! (i guess this irked you? or me saying that you using this site also contributes to "degenerates" like me?)
So, all the people who come here, who reads BL, do they project these stories onto real people? No, because that's ridiculous, LMAO. Nobody in their sane mind thinks that BL's stories are something of real life or can think of LGBTQI+ people like that because that's STUPID AS HELL. So you saying that "it morphs real life" it's just dumb.
"Kids will access this stuff" Stuff that IS NOT FOR THEM. The warnings ARE THERE. Why are the authors at fault when it's obviously MADE FOR ADULTS? Parents need to know what their child is doing, that is a fact. I don't know why you don't agree if this site is listed as a porn site. ALL kids know that porn is bad. They thinking that it's not it's stupid. Children nowadays know very well that those are crimes irl.
Where did i justify that? I said that because they are teenagers they said that, but i never said that they were right. See? now that I don't agree with you, you make me look like this justificator of shocking/edgy comments, LMAO. People like you, who are growing up with no critical thinking or tolerance for other people's opinions are the problem because you are soooo self-centered.
"and when unstable minds consume it, they don’t just snap,they follow the script they’ve been fed." so you do agree that mentally ill people act because they are mentally ill? just decide, jeez.
"You can’t handwave this away with "personal responsibility." Yes, they made their own choices,but these type of media enables them." So they made their own choices, like I said? Gurl, you're just disagreeing to disagree. It's not bad to find common ground with someone you disagree with. And it doesn't enable them because this is FICTION. It's not a justification for their despicable acts.
"you said those criminals were autistic,had anger issues etc etc like every autistic kid goes around killing after playing violent games that glorifies murder, plus it's nowhere mentioned that they were mentally ill and autistic." WTF! ADAM LANZA WAS AUTISTIC, WTF? ERIC HARRIS HAD ANGER ISSUES. At least inform yourself better of what you're talking about! Get out of chatgpt and READ ARTICLES ABOUT THEM. I know you're a minor now, so please stop using chatgpt because it's just frying your head.
Also, some people who have suffered any kind of abuse in their life do come for this type of media, and they even create their own with these themes. Do a research for once, becuase they do reclaim their power over their past abuse and cope with their and other's people art.
Anyway. My last comment because I know you also will go to square one and just disagree and call me a weirdo.
Oh and yes i forgot to mention that one incel who said that it's everyone's dream to get raped isn't a teen btw ,it says "18 yr male" in his bio,now what? Now what? "Bad parenting" doesn't exist here so are you going to give the excuse of "edgy humour" or "mentally ill" again?? Lmao
When tf i was angreesive lol?? because I don’t agree with your excuses? Funny how that’s always the last resort when someone runs out of arguments. Let’s be real here
You literally admitted that unstable people follow the scripts they see in media,so which is it? Does fiction influence them or not? You can’t say it’s "just fantasy" while acknowledging it fuels their actions. That’s not an opinion, that’s a contradiction.
The "it’s for adults!" defense is meaningless. Kids get into R-rated movies, violent games, and porn all the time. Warnings don’t magically stop them, and the internet sure as hell doesn’t card people. If a teenager walks away thinking rape is "a fantasy" or that gunshots are no big deal (like Evan Ramsey did with Doom), then yeah, the media they consumed played a role. Pretending otherwise is just irresponsible.
Comparing BL to problematic media like rapey porn is a joke. Nobody’s saying BL turns people gay or abusive,but problematic media has been linked to increased aggression in studies. False equivalences don’t make your point stronger; they just make it look like you’re scrambling.
Bringing up Adam Lanza’s autism changes nothing. His obsession with violent games didn’t cause his actions, but it absolutely fed into his warped worldview. Ignoring that connection is just lazy. These killers don’t exist in a vacuum,they immerse themselves in media that glorifies what they eventually do.
Sure, some people use dark fiction to cope with trauma.which is still wrong,i recommend going to therapy,but again it's "some" , let’s not pretend that’s the only audience. Incels and rapists use the same content to justify their sick fantasies. Acting like that doesn’t happen is either naive or dishonest.
You keep screaming "fiction isn’t reality!" like a broken record, but refuse to acknowledge how fiction shapes reality for the people already on the edge. If you’re this desperate to defend rape fetish content without any critical thought, maybe you’re the one who can’t handle opposing views,or the fact that media does have real-world consequences.
And last but not the least i am 19 not a minor lmfao that's the last insult you use when you're getting clocked, and i literally gave several examples of how media effects reality and you're bringing up one case from them where the kid was autistic?? Lmfao and when tf did i say i didn't read the article?? I just said i sited them with the help of chat gpt,you can't be giving lectures about me using chat gpt for help once,when you're doing the same while copying and pasting from there. GOODBYE lmao i was getting tired of your repetition
It's all fun and games to whoever enjoy this shit until it actually happens to you.
Say all the "taking it too personal", "you're just sensitive", "it's just a fictional manga" - type shit all you want to feed yourself with delusions to make yourself sleep better. But shit like these are what fuels rapists to do that shit they do when they believe girls find it "romantic"
I don't want to wish anyone who enjoys these type of things to go through it, but I want to give you a reality check that this shouldn't be something to romanticize.
If you don't agree with what I say, argue with the wall.