I swear people who says that never make manga themselves.. do they not know how hard it is...

O_ojhWHaAt July 2, 2025 8:11 am

I swear people who says that never make manga themselves.. do they not know how hard it is to draw one??

As illegal manga reader myself it is clear what i do is wrong i aint trying to be holier than thou when what i did is also as wrong as stealing from people. It took years to learn to draw and also get published ..

not saying poor people shoudl enjoy entertainment but the way we enjoy it is not morally correct itself.. i dont support the author way in handling this problem. But speaking as fellow artist it just sad people think so lightly in our work (no matter how shitty it is)

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    THee21 July 2, 2025 8:44 am

    as an artist that draws for a living (i have an art degree as well i swear) piracy is one of the things that you cannot fight as an artist, not only does it serve as a way of maintaining it it also helps popularize it, lots of readers read from here then make purchases later

    authors gain international recognition thanks to piracy because any other way we wouldn’t have access to their works

    and finally we’re talkin about a successful artist that’s already making good bank if anything the illegal uploads just help popularize her work and win her more money but her very classist comments (which is even more tone deaf considering the matter of her work) will now lose them lots of purchasers

    Yeha July 2, 2025 9:20 am
    as an artist that draws for a living (i have an art degree as well i swear) piracy is one of the things that you cannot fight as an artist, not only does it serve as a way of maintaining it it also helps popula... THee21

    She has already said she doesn't want to become famous through illegal piracy, so it doesn't matter what "popularity" illegal readers are giving her because she doesn't want it from a illegal source. And popularity doesn't = sales, there are works out there that are "popular" but still discontinued due to low sales volume. And there are plenty non-translated works that are massively popular in their original language without the "help" of illegal translation. There's no need to try and glorify piracy lol we want to read it for free and that's it lol. Piracy is for ourselves, for our own benefit, not for the author's sake.

    O_ojhWHaAt July 2, 2025 9:49 am
    as an artist that draws for a living (i have an art degree as well i swear) piracy is one of the things that you cannot fight as an artist, not only does it serve as a way of maintaining it it also helps popula... THee21

    Girl, im also an artist!

    But, There is no reliable evidence that piracy gives net benefit. In fact there are some studiest that shows most pirated content doesnt convert to sales. (Ex.EUIPO 2019) It may gives some artist exposures. But most of the time free access satisfy demand without compensation..

    O_ojhWHaAt July 2, 2025 9:52 am
    as an artist that draws for a living (i have an art degree as well i swear) piracy is one of the things that you cannot fight as an artist, not only does it serve as a way of maintaining it it also helps popula... THee21

    What you say is just assumption that every illegal users would pay after seeing the content here... But often they never intend to pay for it in the first place.

    O_ojhWHaAt July 2, 2025 9:54 am
    as an artist that draws for a living (i have an art degree as well i swear) piracy is one of the things that you cannot fight as an artist, not only does it serve as a way of maintaining it it also helps popula... THee21

    Thats why exposures doesnt equal revenue, if piracy truly boosted sales- artist wouldnt fight it. Yet many artist oppose piracy, because it undermines their income. Especially for artist that rely on direct sales

    O_ojhWHaAt July 2, 2025 9:56 am
    as an artist that draws for a living (i have an art degree as well i swear) piracy is one of the things that you cannot fight as an artist, not only does it serve as a way of maintaining it it also helps popula... THee21

    Lack of legal access isnt an excuse for theft. You have to admit piracy isnt activism but an exploitation.

    O_ojhWHaAt July 2, 2025 9:59 am
    as an artist that draws for a living (i have an art degree as well i swear) piracy is one of the things that you cannot fight as an artist, not only does it serve as a way of maintaining it it also helps popula... THee21

    Also its not right to say his critism of piracy "classist" when what he does is defending labor rights. Most artist arent wealthy yknow even when their successful they still lose income to piracy.

    Yeha July 2, 2025 9:59 am
    Thats why exposures doesnt equal revenue, if piracy truly boosted sales- artist wouldnt fight it. Yet many artist oppose piracy, because it undermines their income. Especially for artist that rely on direct sal... O_ojhWHaAt

    Istg these people are like the toxic influencers who demand small businesses to give them things for free in exange for "exposure"
    Every artist I know hate this "pay with exposure" nonsense, they want real money for a commission not a " art by @ xxx " tag...and giving credit is basic decency anyway

    O_ojhWHaAt July 2, 2025 10:01 am
    as an artist that draws for a living (i have an art degree as well i swear) piracy is one of the things that you cannot fight as an artist, not only does it serve as a way of maintaining it it also helps popula... THee21

    Saying you cant fight piracy as an artist is not all right. Crime exist everywhere but that doesnt make it legal just because it happens anyway, right?

    O_ojhWHaAt July 2, 2025 10:03 am
    as an artist that draws for a living (i have an art degree as well i swear) piracy is one of the things that you cannot fight as an artist, not only does it serve as a way of maintaining it it also helps popula... THee21

    It also ignores artist who became successful by offering legal alternavites..

    O_ojhWHaAt July 2, 2025 10:04 am
    as an artist that draws for a living (i have an art degree as well i swear) piracy is one of the things that you cannot fight as an artist, not only does it serve as a way of maintaining it it also helps popula... THee21

    Thats why despite what we do may benefit some artist it doesnt make right to think they should bow down and allow it to happen..

    O_ojhWHaAt July 2, 2025 10:05 am
    Thats why despite what we do may benefit some artist it doesnt make right to think they should bow down and allow it to happen.. O_ojhWHaAt

    Thats why their crash out is valid.. their execution is terrible i must admit.

    O_ojhWHaAt July 2, 2025 10:05 am
    as an artist that draws for a living (i have an art degree as well i swear) piracy is one of the things that you cannot fight as an artist, not only does it serve as a way of maintaining it it also helps popula... THee21

    Sorry for taking up the comment.. mgg just refresh my page everytime i try to write long essays

    Hyun July 2, 2025 10:21 am
    Girl, im also an artist! But, There is no reliable evidence that piracy gives net benefit. In fact there are some studiest that shows most pirated content doesnt convert to sales. (Ex.EUIPO 2019) It may gives s... O_ojhWHaAt

    In my country, a popular movie got pirated in facebook, and that movie lost a lot of income due to the movie being leaked.