Opinion { mentions of grape

Nixon October 3, 2025 5:58 pm

I really hate seeing people ship jaekyung & Kim Dan.

Seeing people get all happy about the fact that jaekyung is “trying his hardest” “he’s slowly becoming better” is just overall stupid. Yes I guess you can say he’s “changing” but that doesn’t change the fact, they’re whole entire relationships is literally just rapist + abuser x victim it’s literally something that shouldn’t be romanticized nor shipped but it is.

I hate when stuff like this gets pointed out people start saying “oh you just can’t handle toxic yoai/yuri” when what’s happening in the manwha isn’t anything remotely close to toxic Yoai or yuri.

Anyways that’s all, I don’t read jinx & haven’t for awhile nor do I plan on it, I dropped it after the first 5 chapters & based off of what I’ve seen with some of the recent chapters I’m not picking it up. I just wanted to express an opinion.

Edit: { PSI: I mainly see ppl on social media shipping them or babying their relationship I haven’t seen many on this platform anymore but they still exist. }

Responses
    TOTEIEO October 3, 2025 6:03 pm

    this shit not even a toxic yaoi. jaekyung and mingwa are the only toxic here. no well written characters, overused plot, poor execution of his supposed to be "redemption arc"?

    Nixon October 3, 2025 6:08 pm
    this shit not even a toxic yaoi. jaekyung and mingwa are the only toxic here. no well written characters, overused plot, poor execution of his supposed to be "redemption arc"? TOTEIEO

    Yeah the term “toxic yoai/yuri” is just overused in general especially when people have no idea how the actual troupe/genre works as a whole.

    Shiki October 3, 2025 6:18 pm

    How is it stupid to say "he’s slowly becoming better" when we all came here waiting for that xD (knowing perfectly that's what is gonna happen). Nothing is romanticized, like I said we know he's going to be a better guy despite the bad things he did, this is supposed to be a love story after all, like the author said, the love is going to show itself slowly. I like it when all start bad and become good between protagonists. And we're not talking about shipping, they are meant to be together from start, it's LITERALLY their story.
    Bro, I'm here for the drama, the toxicity, the taboo, it's clearly not for everyone. But I guarantee you this is a common trope and a basic yaoi story (one of the softest yaoi btw) and I dare you to read "Reverse Thinking" this is traumatic for me so I stopped reading, so do the same.

    Shiki October 3, 2025 6:19 pm
    this shit not even a toxic yaoi. jaekyung and mingwa are the only toxic here. no well written characters, overused plot, poor execution of his supposed to be "redemption arc"? TOTEIEO

    Ranked top bl manhwa... But just saying ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌

    踏仙君 October 3, 2025 6:25 pm

    and yet you're still here for some reason??? you dropped this already and those social media platforms you use have block/mute features. Use them. Nothing here should concern you any further.

    Stop policing other people. Your tasteless opinion is bullshit and unsolicited. Gtfo.

    Anormal fujo October 3, 2025 6:46 pm
    How is it stupid to say "he’s slowly becoming better" when we all came here waiting for that xD (knowing perfectly that's what is gonna happen). Nothing is romanticized, like I said we know he's going to be a... Shiki

    What the fuck are you saying? You’re romanticizing a rapist. One thing is someone being bad or mean like rivals or a bully (i guess a bully is tolerable for the sake of a redemption arc) but Jaekyung is a coercive abusive rapist. Nothing about this is redeemable. We read enemies to lovers to watch them slowly fall in love, this is just disgusting. Its disgusting that someone thunks like you too. Ugh.

    Bunny October 3, 2025 8:23 pm

    Meant to dislike, sorry

    Nixon October 3, 2025 10:46 pm
    and yet you're still here for some reason??? you dropped this already and those social media platforms you use have block/mute features. Use them. Nothing here should concern you any further.Stop policing other... 踏仙君

    I’m not policing other people love, I never once said you couldn’t ship it I just said I personally found it weird.

    This is a platform with a comment section I’m allowed to express my thoughts & opinions just like everybody else!!

    Nixon October 3, 2025 10:50 pm
    How is it stupid to say "he’s slowly becoming better" when we all came here waiting for that xD (knowing perfectly that's what is gonna happen). Nothing is romanticized, like I said we know he's going to be a... Shiki

    1: most people who say it use it as an excuse to justify the ship!! It’s just also overall stupid to say when you consider the context in general.

    2: saying “nothing is romanticized” is a complete lie WHILE you may not see it I have countless times which is why I made the statement in the first place, countless people romanticize their relationship or gloss over everything that happened before hand.

    3: “this is supposed to be a love story after all” yeah one that’s build off of rape abuse & several other aspects that aren’t being handled properly in the slightest.

    4: “their meant to be together from the start” okay?? That doesn’t change the fact that it’s a ship and people ship it

    5: if your here for everything you listed okay cool unless your apart of the group I brought up then I don’t know why you felt the need to specify any of this.

    Nixon October 3, 2025 10:50 pm
    Ranked top bl manhwa... But just saying ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌ Shiki

    Yeah it’s ranked “top” bl for an obvious reason.. one I stated earlier

    TOTEIEO October 3, 2025 10:53 pm
    1: most people who say it use it as an excuse to justify the ship!! It’s just also overall stupid to say when you consider the context in general.2: saying “nothing is romanticized” is a complete lie WHIL... Nixon

    man there's no point arguing with these dumbasses who's too stupid to understand what's wrong with this story, their relationship, and the characters. they will defend that horse looking mfer like he did nothing wrong and will give u justification of his actions based on his "redemption arc" which is his not so sad back story and a pity party

    Nixon October 3, 2025 10:54 pm
    and yet you're still here for some reason??? you dropped this already and those social media platforms you use have block/mute features. Use them. Nothing here should concern you any further.Stop policing other... 踏仙君

    Also respectfully love you should take your own advice, you could’ve simply blocked me if my “tasteless” opinion bothered you so much instead of being disrespectful & getting on your high horse + replying. Nothing with my comment should concern you any further let’s not act hypocritical!!

    Nixon October 3, 2025 10:55 pm
    man there's no point arguing with these dumbasses who's too stupid to understand what's wrong with this story, their relationship, and the characters. they will defend that horse looking mfer like he did nothin... TOTEIEO

    I don’t intend to argue with them, they were pretty respectful with their statement so I decided to reply back, I don’t think I’m going to change their opinion in the slightest but they aren’t being disrespectful nor hypocritical. compared to another person who can’t even follow their own advice

    Nixon October 3, 2025 10:57 pm
    Meant to dislike, sorry Bunny

    Dont know why you felt the need to tell me this lol especially if you aren’t going to include your reasoning

    With that being said mistakes happen

    Shiki October 4, 2025 3:56 am
    What the fuck are you saying? You’re romanticizing a rapist. One thing is someone being bad or mean like rivals or a bully (i guess a bully is tolerable for the sake of a redemption arc) but Jaekyung is a coe... Anormal fujo

    btch shút up please, if you can't understand people, go express your frustration elsewhere. Kids these days, listen read something else stop bothering ppl lmaooo most yaoi start bad, not as rivals btch nor bully. Read more yaoi.

    Shiki October 4, 2025 3:58 am
    I’m not policing other people love, I never once said you couldn’t ship it I just said I personally found it weird.This is a platform with a comment section I’m allowed to express my thoughts & opinio... Nixon

    Nice. Now that you did. You're mission in this comment section is over. You dislike it, we understand, next step is stop reading it and never show your face here again (you can't right...)

    Shiki October 4, 2025 4:02 am
    1: most people who say it use it as an excuse to justify the ship!! It’s just also overall stupid to say when you consider the context in general.2: saying “nothing is romanticized” is a complete lie WHIL... Nixon

    Brother, this is supposed to be a fiction, why the hell are you taking this SO seriously... Chiiiiiill, open your window, all of this isn't read, it's someones imagination, and people who read it have a life too, jobs, maybe kids coz ooohhhh we're adults, we're not discovering this genre, you do. So chill and go do your homework

    Shiki October 4, 2025 4:06 am
    man there's no point arguing with these dumbasses who's too stupid to understand what's wrong with this story, their relationship, and the characters. they will defend that horse looking mfer like he did nothin... TOTEIEO

    Yeah right, now grow up.

    Anormal fujo October 4, 2025 4:16 am
    Yeah it’s ranked “top” bl for an obvious reason.. one I stated earlier Nixon

    Its ranked top because of problematic pieces of shit like you!! WHICH CONSTITUTES THE MAJORITY OF THE BL READING COMMUNITY THAT ROMANTICIZES RAPISTS
    Xoxo

    Shiki October 4, 2025 4:21 am
    Its ranked top because of problematic pieces of shit like you!! WHICH CONSTITUTES THE MAJORITY OF THE BL READING COMMUNITY THAT ROMANTICIZES RAPISTSXoxo Anormal fujo

    LMAOOOO each comment of you gives me the right to ask myself this question you can't even answer :"the fk you're even doing here"? Just to shít on yaoi fans, what a boring life you have... Get one first tho... However, I'm interested about the "problematic" part how are yaoi fans problematic? Develop.