I F#CKing hate the brother

Errant Belle October 30, 2017 7:43 pm

"I figure I was helping you by turning you into whore, even though you cried non-stop and begged me not to..."
What an asshole!!!

Responses
    Vexed October 31, 2017 12:13 am

    I think he meant it more like if the shop hadn’t needed another boy momo wouldn’t have to become a prostitute. But since it was inevitable, the brother rather he himself train momo gently than let another person possibly treat him harshly. Still sucked tho.

    Errant Belle October 31, 2017 1:00 am
    I think he meant it more like if the shop hadn’t needed another boy momo wouldn’t have to become a prostitute. But since it was inevitable, the brother rather he himself train momo gently than let another p... Vexed

    That's not how it read to me.
    I thought he was just trying to make himself feel better because, deep down, he knew a real brother would have moved heaven and earth to prevent Momo from going into prostitution.

    majie October 31, 2017 2:22 am

    isn't it because their parents died and he has no other options since that is the only work he knows? in the first place before being a mawashi one has been a kagema when he was young so i think the brother also suffered before..he has good intentions but given the circumstances it is the best he could think of for Momo...this is what I like about this manga..it did not glamorize prostitution and showed a real glimpse of being a kagema in Edo-era Japan

    Akino_Yonaga October 31, 2017 3:09 pm
    I think he meant it more like if the shop hadn’t needed another boy momo wouldn’t have to become a prostitute. But since it was inevitable, the brother rather he himself train momo gently than let another p... Vexed

    Yeah, that's how I understood it.

    Purupuru October 31, 2017 3:19 pm
    isn't it because their parents died and he has no other options since that is the only work he knows? in the first place before being a mawashi one has been a kagema when he was young so i think the brother als... @majie

    Ehhh really? But the brother also said that if he hadn't lost his child this wouldn't have happened so I think he could have prevented all this

    Errant Belle October 31, 2017 5:14 pm
    Ehhh really? But the brother also said that if he hadn't lost his child this wouldn't have happened so I think he could have prevented all this Purupuru

    Exactly, I got the impression that all those things he said were just the excuses he was using to make himself feel better about what he did.
    Basically, if he and his wife could have afforded to start a family, then he could easily have afforded to keep his brother out of prostitution.
    I mean, if his baby had lived, was he planning on having his own child become a whore when he or she got old enough?
    If so, he's an even bigger scumbag than I thought.

    wooosh October 31, 2017 8:31 pm
    I think he meant it more like if the shop hadn’t needed another boy momo wouldn’t have to become a prostitute. But since it was inevitable, the brother rather he himself train momo gently than let another p... Vexed

    Nii-chan said when he was asked why Momoki gonna be an okama that it was because he had to take care of his duties and because the relative who took care of him passed away. That was his reasons. He said after that he was mourning for the lost of his child and that maybe of not he would find him other more respectable ocuppation. Then he began to indulging himself thinking on that he became his trainer to make him the experience kinder, but he could have chose others paths, anyone would have done that. He is cold, a coward and a depraved man, no more no less, don't sugar-coat what the mangaka stated very clear and btw good written, simply explained. Someone said in the chapter that Momoki was a depressing kagema always crying, he knew he hated it, he refused al the offers to work he was given and his older brother didnt care.
    Well, sorry but Im very emocional right now...

    Vexed November 1, 2017 9:31 am
    Nii-chan said when he was asked why Momoki gonna be an okama that it was because he had to take care of his duties and because the relative who took care of him passed away. That was his reasons. He said after ... wooosh

    Well I’m sorry that it’s making you emotional, enough to lash out and claim I’m trying to sugar coat things, but I honestly don’t remember Nii-chan having a kid. I’ll reread it to see if I missed anything. If I DID miss it then you’ll understand my confusion that I thought the end part meant that the lost kid was a previous kid training to be a kagema. And that inital misunderstanding led me to believe that Nii-chan felt like he had no choice in regard to momo becoming the next kagema. I was simply stating an opinion in the previous post and was not at all rude. Your emotional state is not an excuse to lash out on me just because my opinion differed from yours. Kindly calm down.

    jana_83 November 1, 2017 11:02 am
    Well I’m sorry that it’s making you emotional, enough to lash out and claim I’m trying to sugar coat things, but I honestly don’t remember Nii-chan having a kid. I’ll reread it to see if I missed anyt... Vexed

    I think you are right. the kid that died was supposed to be the next boy and momos relative that was taking care if him died. neither if them were the same person, his nephew or his anki. he wasn't mourning, the shop just had lost a tool that needed replacing.
    brothers wife DID die in childbirth, but brothers kid was still there
    http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/momo_to_manji/mf/af10f2dc298aeeab99309b4fa494aaa3_chapter-5/pg-6/
    I took the rest of it the way you initially did in your first response as well.

    wooosh November 1, 2017 2:42 pm
    Well I’m sorry that it’s making you emotional, enough to lash out and claim I’m trying to sugar coat things, but I honestly don’t remember Nii-chan having a kid. I’ll reread it to see if I missed anyt... Vexed

    Sorry if Ive been rude, that wasnt my intention. I didnt meant it were you who made me emotional but the manga. My english is not very good when it comes to write it and my way of express things comes out awckward or blunt maybe? Yes he said that they lost a child in the shop but thats more like a opportunity more like an obligation, as I said older brother said he cant take care of him due to his own duties. Its not out of necessity at least its what I get. I think the key is this page:

    http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/momo_to_manji/mf/af10f2dc298aeeab99309b4fa494aaa3_chapter-6/pg-24/
    Anyway if it is what you say anyway he can replace the kid for another than his "cute little brother", not that he wasnt any better, he is prostituting kids as a living but well the way he indulged himself pissed me off so much and I cant rationalize when children are involved. He maybe has been in that world all his life for choice or not, idk, but your lil bro dont want to be there, he cried non-stop everytime, and now he says hemeant well and tear. No no, I dont buy it.
    If someone wanna share his thoughts about this matter I appreciated it cause Id like to understand the situation completly and now I have doubts.
    I hope I express well what I mean. Sorry.

    Vexed November 1, 2017 3:29 pm
    Sorry if Ive been rude, that wasnt my intention. I didnt meant it were you who made me emotional but the manga. My english is not very good when it comes to write it and my way of express things comes out awckw... wooosh

    Yes, I found the entire situation sad, unfortunate, and deplorable. It is an unfortunate fact that historically things did happen that way. I won’t defend the nii-chan but the only way I can understand why he didn’t take momo away and start a different job is because the Niki-chan likely didn’t have any other choice. If the nii-chan could work somewhere else then he’d be doing that instead of working in a brothel in the first place. It’s likely that during this time, this horrible job paid relatively well especially for someone who probably doesn’t have any talent in doing anything else. I’m also not sure but I think during this approximate time Japan’s farmers weren’t doing so well either and had to move to the city to look for jobs and if they couldn’t work for some establishment, then they got shit jobs like this. :( it’s all very sad.

    Vexed November 1, 2017 3:33 pm
    I think you are right. the kid that died was supposed to be the next boy and momos relative that was taking care if him died. neither if them were the same person, his nephew or his anki. he wasn't mourning, th... jana_83

    Yeah there was just a lot of information provided in just a few lines so it would’ve been easy to miss something. Nii chan and momo’s situation still sucks either way you take it, just that one situation paints nii chan as a bit more heartless than the other.