Thank you ┗( T﹏T )┛
yes, i am even now half-convinced that everyone who only hates subin haven't even been in a real relationship. i mean, damn i love hyung, i really do, but most people baby him and act as if he isn't a grown man, older than subin and therefore expected to act more mature. He isn't innocent, jesus.
What did Hyung do wrong? He's mad because his lover was out all night with his crush ignoring his calls... Is he right that they had sex? No. But that's besides the point because Subin is the one who decided to stay the night with his crush leaving his boyfriend jealous. Subin is in the wrong as always. Or are you saying that Hyung thinking Subin slept with Hyunwoo is on par with your lover staying the night at their crush's house?
Actions have consequences, the action was Subin staying at his crush's house while ignoring his boyfriend's calls and the consequence is that because of what Subin did Hyung has every right to be upset with Subin in any way he sees fit. In response to Subin's action Hyung has no faith left for Subin as a partner. And no, it isn't "oh, he lost faith over one thing? He's in the wrong!", this has been building since they got together with Subin never showing any commitment and constantly giving Hyung reason to worry. This scene was the culmination of all that, the climax.
and this is why the world is fuckep up, humans are very complex indeed when it comes to emotions.. its our greatest downfall..
The issue is not at all putting all the blame at Subin..
we all know how difficult and painful it is in getting over your unrequited love but we couldnt just give up, we always hold on to that tiniest bit of hope that eventually the tides will turn.. same thing happen, when we got something we ever wish for we do everything in our power to keep it bcoz hey life's a bitch and when you let your guard down all is lost.. we all love good drama, we tend to chose the long winding road when in fact things could be easy.. Subin could've just refused hyung from the start when things started to turn serious, or explain to Hyung that He cant have his heart 100% (coz Hyunwoo) and if he can wait to figure his feelings out. Or since hyung already knows about Subins situation and him being Subin's insurance policy, he should've made it clear from the start.. Thus saving them from all the heartache..but yeah we are all HUMANS, we always make mistakes.. blame it to HOPE i guess, its does not always comes in glitters..
hyung didn't trust subin, that is what was wrong. when you say you love someone doesn't that mean you should also trust that person? he should've let subin explain himself instead of lashing out as soon as he walked into door and accusing him of being a cheater. I understand that it is only a natural reaction but he's a grown man who should know better, he even admits that it was childish of him to do it but he did it anyway. and besides, it's not like subin meant to spend the night in his OWN apartment, which he unfortunately shares with hyunwoo? damn the kid was sick, he literally passed out in the front door.
wait, subin was not showing any commitment? didn't he ignore hyunwoo's calls, planned to move out from the apartment he shares with him and changed jobs? what d'you mean? i agree, this scene was the culmination of all the insecurities that hyung feels in this relationship with subin but to say that subin isn't committed to hyung is wrong.
Okay, this is all well and good logic in a normal relationship where you're giving your lover any reason to trust you, but Subin has done literally nothing but give Hyung reason to worry. As far as Hyung jumping on him as soon as he went through the door, i'd agree with you if Hyung hadn't been up all night after receiving a text saying that his boyfriend is staying the night at Hyunwoo's house. It wasn't just that he stayed the night at a man's house, it's that he stayed the night at Hyunwoo's apartment. As i said, because of this Hyung has literally every right to be upset in any way he sees fit.
That wasn't Subin showing commitment, Subin did that for Subin because he didn't want to deal with Hyunwoo. In the 1st place, Subin is only living with Hyung to avoid Hyunwoo.
No, what you ARE saying is that your lover getting sick and fainting is less important than your imaginings of what they may have done together. And, if you had thought I had ever said that Kang SHOULD have trusted him, I don't know why you DID but, IF that is the case, to make this even *simpler* Kang not trusting him has NOTHING to do with ensuring the person you love is okay, FIRST. Thanks.
And there we have it....
he didn't even say he planned on staying the night, the hell you talking about? he texted him he was going to stop by (which should have been all good since that was his own apartment as well) but unfortunately he was feeling sick and passed out in the front door. If kangjun wasn't too consumed with his insecurities and jealousy, he could've listened to subin's explanation instead of just drawing out his own conclusion. yes, he has any right to be upset, but to not let his lover explain for himself? that's wrong. why are you pushing the blame on subin when kangjun is the one who is always so suspicious of his actions? that's not subin's fault if his lover can't trust him. He has always been upfront about liking hyunwoo from the start. Kangjun accepted him knowing that. Subin made steps to avoid hyunwoo but it is always hyung who is always so suspicious, so insecure.
And Kangjun knows that and accepted him?... in the first place, this whole relationship started out with the premise that subin is only using kangjun to get over hyunwoo, is it not? they weren't even that serious in the beginning? What kind of commitment are you looking for in subin?
THIS ^^^. I feel like no one wants to give Subin any credit at all for trying to be committed to Hyung. People just hate on him cause he doesn't return Hyung's feelings the same way. But personally I think 1) it takes time for feelings to grow and 2) it doesn't help when your partner is as insecure as Hyung is. (I'm not saying it is Hyung's fault for being insecure I'm just saying it doesn't help and is putting unnecessary pressure on Subin). (╯°Д °)╯╧╧ Personally, I would be very happy if they could work it out, and that can't happen if there isn't mutual understanding of the part each played in messing things up between them (it takes two to tango people!!!).
I think you're right that it boils down to hope. Both Subin and Hyung hoped that Subin would fall for him and completely forget about Hyunwoo faster than would really have been possible. If they were more mature maybe they could be a little more patient with each other. but idk
My problem with this is that it's also subin's apartment. He has a right to go back there and sleep there if he wants too. It's a grey situation and definitely uncomfortable for Hyung but if he had tried to be mature and understanding he would've won a lot of brownie points. 2 wrongs don't make a right. also try to remember all of the things Subin has done in order to distance himself from Hyunwoo. Since he officially started dating Hyung (when Hyung said I love you), he saw Hyunwoo once in passing and that was it. Subin quit his job, stopped answering the guys calls, and hasn't even gone back home at all. (personally, I'm really impressed with Subin's resolve, also how didn't he run out of underwear or something!). Because Hyung couldn't get over his jealousy their relationship was doomed from the start.
(=・ω・=) what the heck happened here while I was gone
Subin didn't distance himself from Hyunwoo for Hyung, Subin distanced himself from Hyunwoo for Subin. Subin just wanted to avoid Hyunwoo. In the 1st place Subin is only living with Hyung to avoid Hyunwoo. As far as it being a "grey area", i don't agree. Subin is in a relationship and has to adhere to some unspoken rules, he should NEVER have stayed the night with Hyunwoo under ANY circumstance if he was serious about Hyung and taking his feelings into account. As far as it being Subin's property, it's fine if he goes to the property to chill and keeps his worried boyfriend posted or has someone there with him, it's the WAY things went down that put him in the wrong.
Wow...I love this...they're BOTH in the wrong. I'm so tired of all this unnecessary hate towards Subin and ONLY Subin.