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mochiii May 24, 2018 8:22 pm

I just LOVE how fans criticize Hyesung's character for being "bitchy" and "childish" and "annoying" for getting RAPED but don't criticize Dojin for raping and impregnating Hyesung to get him to stay with him.

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    liz May 24, 2018 11:30 pm

    lol it wasnt the rape that led to the pregnancy.

    mochiii May 25, 2018 12:27 am
    lol it wasnt the rape that led to the pregnancy. liz

    we been knew, but he was still raped lol

    Luca May 25, 2018 10:22 am

    It's hard to criticize Dojin when he's just so sweet sometimes and most of the time, he treats hyesung kindly and cares about him all the time. I'm just pretty surprised that he's able to survive this long without kicking hyesung out of his home. And tho some people didn't like hyesung, I personally and surprisingly likes him quite a lot actually. Maybe bcuz he's kinda cute and adorable I guess ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ tho I would say Dojin's my favourite character whether in if you hate me that much or love illusion.

    PartyBear May 25, 2018 10:57 am

    Okay first off, people called him "bitchy" "childish" and "annoying" not bitchy childish and annoying "for getting raped". You should have just said your mad at dojin for raping him. Also hyesung raped dojin so it's a loss on both sides.

    Luca May 25, 2018 12:59 pm
    Okay first off, people called him "bitchy" "childish" and "annoying" not bitchy childish and annoying "for getting raped". You should have just said your mad at dojin for raping him. Also hyesung raped dojin so... PartyBear

    Lmao come to think of it, Hyesung also raped Dojin and Dojin raped Hyesung so it's a win win lol. Some people are too focused when the uke gets raped but when the seme gets wronged, they would say it's no big deal. Like u guys said "RAPE IS RAPE" so u guys should know that seme shouldn't rape uke and uke shouldn't rape seme.

    PartyBear May 25, 2018 1:07 pm
    Lmao come to think of it, Hyesung also raped Dojin and Dojin raped Hyesung so it's a win win lol. Some people are too focused when the uke gets raped but when the seme gets wronged, they would say it's no big d... Luca

    Really? But your the one saying rape is a win-win for the both sides, that's a little disturbing.

    clouds May 25, 2018 1:09 pm
    Really? But your the one saying rape is a win-win for the both sides, that's a little disturbing. PartyBear

    I know right (⊙…⊙ )

    Luca May 25, 2018 1:15 pm
    Really? But your the one saying rape is a win-win for the both sides, that's a little disturbing. PartyBear

    Haha, I should have phrase it another way huh? Hmm... Maybe something like both got their own retaliation. And besides ur being too paranoid~ it's not disturbing if u ever think of it in another way ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭. Win-win is a term where it kinda says something like both gets what they deserve or just fair. U can search on google. Helps all the time

    PartyBear May 25, 2018 1:17 pm
    I know right (⊙…⊙ ) clouds

    Honestly I know rape is bad regardless who did it, but I just think people are taking it out context in this manwha and treating it as a "theme or genre" now. They act like as if Hyesung or Dojin was emotionally scarred after the rape. It's like when people go on this topic section they feel like need to mention it.

    PartyBear May 25, 2018 1:19 pm
    Haha, I should have phrase it another way huh? Hmm... Maybe something like both got their own retaliation. And besides ur being too paranoid~ it's not disturbing if u ever think of it in another way ╮( ̄▽... Luca

    That's still wrong in my opinion that's basically revenge

    Luca May 25, 2018 1:23 pm
    That's still wrong in my opinion that's basically revenge PartyBear

    Nuh uh bro maybe sis~ It's like if u do bad things, bad things will befall u. Duh... retaliation not revenge (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜

    PartyBear May 25, 2018 1:32 pm
    Nuh uh bro maybe sis~ It's like if u do bad things, bad things will befall u. Duh... retaliation not revenge (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜 Luca

    Retaliation and revenge have the same meaning

    Luca May 25, 2018 1:36 pm
    Retaliation and revenge have the same meaning PartyBear

    It has the same meaning but also has different meaning at the same time. One word have many different meanings and it depends on what u would like for it to mean. What I meant for retaliation is that if you do bad things, bad things will befall you.

    clouds May 25, 2018 1:58 pm
    Nuh uh bro maybe sis~ It's like if u do bad things, bad things will befall u. Duh... retaliation not revenge (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜 Luca

    You are basically saying an "eye for an eye" then, which isn't how most justice systems work, nor do social norms. Saying Hye-sung "deserved' to be raped because he assaulted Dojin is just so wrong, also, when it comes to who was "harmed" out of the two experiences, Hye-sung was left with pregnant which if omegaverse is anything like the real world will cause life long changes to his body, as well as having to deal with the emotional trauma concerning falling pregnant through rape and his identity issues in regards to his omega status.

    Luca May 25, 2018 2:29 pm
    You are basically saying an "eye for an eye" then, which isn't how most justice systems work, nor do social norms. Saying Hye-sung "deserved' to be raped because he assaulted Dojin is just so wrong, also, when ... clouds

    Since when did I say or mention anything about "Hyesung deserves to be rape bcuz he assaulted Dojin"? Aren't u just making conclusions urself?

    And besides victims of rape are still victims of rape and Dojin is a victim too. Wouldn't u get emotional trauma when the guy who u took in suddenly mounted u and raped u? If this wasn't Dojin, the guy would be left in trauma and be too disgusted to do anything sexual cuz he would feel like every person he had sex with is the person who raped him. And mental problem caused physical problem too and would cause the guy to be in pain when having sex when in actuality, he's not in pain. The trauma goes both ways whether ur the one mounting or being mounted.

    clouds May 25, 2018 3:00 pm
    Since when did I say or mention anything about "Hyesung deserves to be rape bcuz he assaulted Dojin"? Aren't u just making conclusions urself?And besides victims of rape are still victims of rape and Dojin is a... Luca

    Read back through your own posts. No one is denying that Hye-sung assaulted Dojin when he was in his "heat" mode, but that incident was not premeditated nor malicious. Dojin literally says he wants to rape Hye-sung in order to make him pregnant and "tie him down" to him. In all of these occasions, Dojin was always the one with the power and who retained control, even if yes, Hye-sung could be criticised for "mounting" Dojin without his consent.

    Your original comment argued that Hye-sung deserved to be raped because of his past actions with Dojin, this is what drew criticism and offense but I do understand that different country's do have an "eye for an eye" approach to justice such as for example having the death penalty which obviously can influence social norms. My perspective is from a place where restorative justice is the norm. You can't justify someone being harmed just because they brought possible harm to others, that just makes you the one in the wrong and doesn't solve anything.

    Luca May 25, 2018 3:45 pm
    Read back through your own posts. No one is denying that Hye-sung assaulted Dojin when he was in his "heat" mode, but that incident was not premeditated nor malicious. Dojin literally says he wants to rape Hye... clouds

    http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/3076947/

    Just to add:
    If someone slaps u, u definitely slaps them back right? Why? Bcuz u think it's fair to return it. Everything depends on what u think of it.

    mochiii May 25, 2018 4:42 pm
    It's hard to criticize Dojin when he's just so sweet sometimes and most of the time, he treats hyesung kindly and cares about him all the time. I'm just pretty surprised that he's able to survive this long with... Luca

    I 100% agree, I love both the characters! Dojin is just so so sweet to Hyesung and he genuinely loves and cares for him. He will make a great father alpha for their baby <3

    mochiii May 25, 2018 4:46 pm
    Okay first off, people called him "bitchy" "childish" and "annoying" not bitchy childish and annoying "for getting raped". You should have just said your mad at dojin for raping him. Also hyesung raped dojin so... PartyBear

    I genuinely would NOT characterize what Hyesung did to Dojin was rape. This is the problem with this generation, people throw around the word rape like it's nothing when its actually a very horrendous and inhumane deed you can do on a person that strips away their innocence and honor. I believe when Hyesung was in heat, he came onto Dojin and began to orally pleasure him but it was visibly evident that Dojin was beginning to feel it. He is MUCH MUCH MUCH bigger than Hyesung and he could've easily pushed him away. He specially said.. "why am I feeling this way for an omega?" and then he took the lead with the sex and started to anally pleasure Hyesung with his fingers and then he put his dick inside him like lmfaooo are you a fucking idiot? No offence but literally go back and reread the fucking story. And I understand why you would think readers often take the uke's side in stories but I am not one of those people, I am not bias. Both characters are fairly flawed and have their own faults, but Hyesung was raped, not Dojin.

    mochiii May 25, 2018 4:48 pm
    Okay first off, people called him "bitchy" "childish" and "annoying" not bitchy childish and annoying "for getting raped". You should have just said your mad at dojin for raping him. Also hyesung raped dojin so... PartyBear

    Like how can you fucking throw around the crime as horrendous as rape with little knowledgement of the actual topic lmfaooo some people are so ignorant it actually pisses me off. HOW can you say Dojin was raped when AFTER he got orally pleasured HE JUMPED ON HYESUNG AND BEGAN TO FUCK HIM. HOW ? I KNOW you aren't that stupid.
    I genuinely apologize if I offend you but what the fuck