16 is by no means the target group of pedophiles, pedophiles have a thing for prepubescent (!!) children, 16 hardly fits that lol..
Are you kidding right now
LMAo as op said: Are you kidding right now
Factually, this^ is right. What are you two talking about? Do you even really know what pedophilia actually is, or is it just "any creepy adult guy" to you two? You both talk as though you're right while being wrong.
You are arguing semantics. It doesn't matter if it is not technically pedophilia, it is still predatory behavior coupled with grooming of underaged kids. Sending dick pics to a middle schooler? The man is a sick f*ck and that is all there is to it.
We're not talking about facts, sure if you're hunting 16 year olds rather than 14 year olds you're not teeeechnically pedophilic, but you're still a disgusting predator and an immoral person.
Factually we are morally superior (care about children, vulnerable people, easily impressionable people) and that's why we talk as though we're right. We are right on moral grounds.
The response is to @lia, who WAS pointing out that pedophilia is a specific thing. It's you who're talking outside the conversation, get your emotional tangents out of here.
Tovah used incorrect wording in their OP here, @lia was correcting them and then those two acted like they're stupid. It factually IS NOT pedophilia. It's not a "technicality", it's not "semantics", neither of those terms work here when pedophilia and ephebophilia aren't interchangeable. One is clearly more morally wrong, punished harsher and classified as a mental disorder (pedophilia) while as the other is just considered a sexual preference (ephebophilia). Technicality and semantics refer to similar wording, pedophiles specifically target ages 13-, there is nothing similar about the age ranges. Compare the mentalities and independence, at 13 your parents are still making your food for you. 13- are CHILDREN, ephebophilia is 15-19, YOUNG ADULTS. Get your facts straight before you make incorrect topics and try and act like someone who actually knows what they're talking about is stupid.
Just let it go..they won't get it no matter what you sayy..
Congratulations on having Google I guess. Which country do you live in where a 15-17 y/o is a young adult? A fifteen year old is very easily impressionable and dumb. I know, I was one. There's nothing morally ok with targeting people at high school age. As I said, it's still illegal in a lot of *democracies* for a reason, but the most wrong thing is buying love or consent with gifts and financial support. That's illegal to do to a minor or someone much younger no matter what age, even in Korea.
Are you done? You aren't right. Factually. I'm not going to continue arguing with you. Maybe you should use google too so you can understand the meaning of the words you're throwing around. You sound like one of those people that argues that everything is rape.
And you sound like the strawman Christian people think atheists are. I hate that strawman. But yeah, sure, I'm done. Cya.
Predatory Behavior is PREDATORY BEHAVIOR! Period. DOT. END OF STORY.
Actually, let me expand on both my earlier statements. When I said you are arguing semantics, YOU ARE. While Pedophilia and Ephebophilia are not interchangeable terms, they are BOTH types of PREDATORS. All you are arguing is WHAT KIND OF A PREDATOR HE IS. THAT is arguing semantics. Because he is STILL a PREDATOR. Doesn't matter what KIND of predator. A Ephebophile is no less dangerous than a pedophile is. NOR are either less or more dangerous than a rapist of adults would be. They are ALL predators.
No, if they mean "predator", they need to say "predator". Not "pedophile".
haha thanks, but i knew i was going to get those replies, i just don't like it when people throw around pedophilia like that, or using pedophile as a synonym for perpetrator, because a sexuality is not a crime in itself, and in most cases it's not pedophiles who rape children, but they mostly become victims just because they are 'easier' than adults. generally, rape is often more about dominance than sexual attraction.
but if they think having the hots for/fucking a 16 year old and a 6 year old is the same, than that actually raises a lot of questions imho lol ..
To be clear, pedophilia isn't a sexuality, it's a mental disorder. But yes, i do agree that pedophile and pedophilia are used incorrectly entirely too much. All pedophiles are predators, but not all predators are pedophiles.
well, too lazy to go into it too deep but there is some controversial opinion about whether it's a mental disorder or a sexuality, aside from being defined by a psychiatrist, there are also different definitions even as a mental disorder, that in some cases even state opposites of each other..interestingly, ICD sees it as a sexual preference, and DSM-5 kinda ignores that, and it counts as pedophilia as long as you sexually assault children, no matter if you're actually into children at all, or only into children. but imo it doesn't matter much, because a child can never give informed consent, so whether it's a sexuality or a sexual preference born out of a 'mental disorder', it can never be legal or morally accepted.. but both definitions don't include 16 year old teens haha
I view DSM-5 as the definitive answer, personally. It makes sense that it'd still be pedophilia if the child was age 13-, sexual attraction isn't the definitive detail in identifying pedophilia, age range is. Thanks for the chat. :^)
Honestly, i can't possibly see pedophilia as a sexuality. I agree with something i just saw. Gay, straight and Bi people are able to build a life with someone, grow old with them. Pedophilia isn't like that, pedophiles just want to fuck children they're attracted to and move on to the next. It isn't about love, they don't want anyone over the age of 13. Once the child is no longer attractive to them they can't help but move on to the next. I entirely disagree with the idea that Pedophilia could even possibly be a sexuality.
I'm not gonna quit reading this because some of you are fucking pedo apologetics but please think a bit. So what if he's been nice to one guy, so what if someone might've hacked him, he's still trying to fuck 16 year olds and he's still using dirty methods to do so (bringing gifts, acting like a missing figure of support, things that are very easy to trick vulnerable children and teens with). No matter how good he is at doing these things, and yes, no matter how genuine his feelings are, it's still immoral, and it's still illegal in a lot of countries for a reason. Just because it's legal doesn't make it right.