Ugh

1evis1ittlea$$hole September 28, 2019 10:29 am

People need to get over the fact that maybe just maybe some people don't like rape and maybe just maaaybe Seungho is an unlikable character to some and people have a right to complain if they want. I can't bloody believe I have to even say "It's okay for people to be disgusted by rape" like wtf? This is what's wrong with the yaoi fandom, yaoi normalizes "rape to love" so much that some of y'all don't even bother to have a critical eye when it comes to fiction.

Jesus, if people can gush about how great they think Seungho is then people have the right to rag on him for doing things that are quite fucking cruel and horrible. Y'all like him despite all of his very unlikable traits? Cool. Some people like me think he's interesting but hates his actions, also cool.

At this point people who are bending over backwards to defend his actions are more annoying than the people complaining about him. Even the damn author went out their way to show that they saw the scene as a rape because Seungho himself even knew homeboy was out of it. People aren't allowed to hate that? Really? People aren't allowed to lament the idea of a romance between them but people are allowed to fangirl over them even though it can go either way?

Y'all don't like people criticizing something/someone you really like? Tough titty. Honestly I was annoyed at people generalizing the fans who liked NaSeung as a couple but now I feel like the ppl in favor of Seungho are just being asses about others having a different opinion that's just as valid at the end of the day. People are afraid that this will turn into "rape to love", that's a very understandable fear. If it turns that way then they will probably drop it but for now who tf knows how this will go? They still like the story, let them like the story and express their dislike for the shitty parts. They might have a very personal reason for not liking it because, you know, everyone is different.

Seungho is incredibly entertaining and appealing, if you like him that's cool but don't act like Seungho isn't a fucking asshole. He's a very flawed character and the author doesn't skim over this fact. He's supposed to be both unlikable and likable so if people DON'T like him they have the right to. Some of his actions are deplorable and if he were not hot and charismatic most of you would hate him too. If y'all can't handle the fact that he's a controversial character than idk what to tell you buttercup.

Responses
    Tereza42 September 28, 2019 1:17 pm

    We just think its stupid to go to horrorish manhwa to complain about it being abusive...coz duh.You wouldnt complain that horror movie is scary with abusive characters, would you?
    Maybe BJ Alex comment section would be more accurate place to go to complain.. not this.

    Kuro September 28, 2019 2:44 pm

    Given that this is during a time 'rape' wasn't even a word back then also applies as well (since it's a historical setting). No one says you have to 'like' certain characters and no one says you have to 'hate' characters either. Posting comments like this in itself is toxic-you make it seem as if people can't comprehend or read into characters. And again fiction is fiction (this is a fictional setting) and people take it a bit too far into irl problems (which doesn't help real people).
    *There a group of people who like Jihwa or Sir in-hun and even ship them lol and they hate Seungho (or they hate Jihwa and love Sir in-hun, etc..). And I agree with the comment above ^ it is kinda dumb to complain about the contents of it when there warnings/tags. Which is another big problem in the yaoi fandom, even though people tag and put warnings artists and authors get a shit ton of flack for it. Which isnt fair to the. but at the same time I guess it's just a western fandom problem anyways. But that's a whole other conversation.

    Yu101 September 28, 2019 2:48 pm

    Look, I am one of those who complain about rape as a “romantic device” or as a “I’m your rapist but imma be your hero and save you from other rapists” plot. I complained and dropped/rated low in BJ Alex, Love is an illusion and other mangas as well. But this is clearly a psychological twisted manga that follows a manipulative sociopath whims, so of course people are not shocked over the rape thing when previously there were killing, stabbing and abuse coming from the lord. You have the right to complain about his actions as well as I have the right to find it pointless when this was clearly expected from the story. And I’m sorry but you are going to keep criticizing it forever because our lord is gonna keep abusing people and is not gonna turn to a loving cinnamon roll from day to night

    MangaSanctuary September 28, 2019 3:35 pm

    Don't know about others, but I've said already few times (more than 5 times) how Lord is a manipulative heartless asshole that kills people, orgist-man, that I disapprouve profundly his promiscuois side etc... But besides this, I also aknowledge his intelligence and speak good of him when he's kind to Nakyum; orphan that no one cares aside the Lord... Even if nobody cares about what I write.
    When I see glimpses of him expressing human feelings (attraction, attachment to Nakyum, for ex...), it nourrish my hopes he can grow to become a better person. Finally I'm happy to see him changing bit by bit besides the painter, knowing how things started with him.

    Difference between commentators like you and us is we don't only speak bad of him. Because as we know, Seungho is more than being an asshole, and for the moment we don't even know all the things we need to know about him. Judging him that severely is a bit unfair at this point. And that's right, having nothing but bad things to speak about a character, or something that's an obvious important element of the story makes the ambiance toxic. It gets tiring for everyone...