I don’t get why people seem to believe Seungho is somehow redeemable yet no one even con...

Because Seungho’s current behavior is probably caused by something in his past that hurt him. He does really terrible things but idk I like that he doesn’t at least try to pretend like he is a good guy. While Inhun is sneaky, greedy and uses people as he likes, I really hate double-faced bastards like him the most

Tho personally I’m not sure if he’s redeemable at this point...

It’s not that seungho is better it’s just he isn’t putting on airs about being good he has a horrible personality and does horrible things yes but his intentions are clear and his character is less complex to understand. he is a tyrant and cruel but the teachers intentions aren’t clear and so far we’ve only seen him mentally control someone he knows is in love with him so we are yet to truly see his characters full personality

Cause most people don’t care as long as the seme is hot ┑(￣Д ￣)┍ he can rape, manipulate and abuse, but people still will ship the couple

I can’t and I don’t want the lord in a relationship with the painter, he can redeem himself and get the hell out the cutie’s life

Inhun is much more redeemable as he's not murdered and raped anyone (that we know of). But he's not interesting in terms of conflict. But, ideally, if I had my way, neither of them would get the kid. Kid has been used enough. However, as others have said, S doesn't make bones about how he's an arrogant, brutal, hedonistic entitled jerk. I pretends to be "noble" of character, while he's just opportunistic and as willing to use the poor uke as the seme is. Sneaky is nasty to me. But he's definitely done less awful stuff and is closer to redeemable. However, storywise, isn't the redemption of someone really shitty more dramatic/interesting than the redemption of a guy who is a sneaky, ambitious twit?

I'm on cutie's side. Period. If it can be adequately worked out for cutie to be supremely happy without any more abuse---I'll buy it. I just can't stand to see him tortured. Makes my heart hurt.

Inhun really is NOT more redeemable. He is driven by hunger for power, he looks down on everyone around him, and thinks he is perfect. A great example of this is when Seungho goes to seek him out and Inhun says that he doesn't bother teaching the kids because they are meant to be farmers so there's no need for them to learn numbers and such. In that moment you can see that Seungho disagrees, thinks the better of arguing with him, and instead continues to butter him up in order to get him to come to his residence. This is important because we see a glimpse into logical Seungho that is not being driven by the emptiness inside of him -- the narrative hints that he sees some amount of value in even farmers getting an education. Whether that's about social mobility or functionality in their current hierarchy, we can't know but it's not nihilistic like Inhun.

Next, the two are clear opposites in open mindedness. Inhun judges things (like homosexuality) which are different from him to be vile -- Seungho sees past the emptiness of that sense of perception. He also doesn't value class differences that much because it doesn't take him even a second to do the do with Nakyum. Also, whenever he mentions to Nakyum that he should be happy Seungho is being kind to him, it's not because he's a noble but rather because he is fairly ruthless and he is self-aware.

Anyway all this to say, if Nakyum was a woman, Inhun would have done despicable things to him already. He is not more redeemable simply because we have not seen his crimes as a part of the narrative.

Nice try to defend the lord lol but, have you forgotten he killed a guy in the first chapters? He stabbed one because he was in the way? He is raping the uke just because he is obsessed with him? If it’s not looking down on others and don’t know what it is. Inhun is manipulative and look down on poor people, the lord is crazy and even kills his subordinates, both are trash, but there is a huge difference between manipulation/arrogance and murder/rape

Yeah I'm not convinced. And I think your read on this is gross oversimplification. And like I said, we don't know that Inhun doesn't rape/murder. He's planning to go after Seungho as we speak. We are not talking who is better or ok, we are talking who is redeemable. I think Seungho is infinitely more redeemable because his behavior is in line with his status and mostly reactionary. We know he is deranged in a traumatized sort of way. What traumatized Inhun? That he wasn't born a noble? We are not applying our society's norms onto them. We are talking moral character

You can't argue from silence. We have not seen Inhun rape and murder. We HAVE seen Seungho murder and rape and use people. We've seen Inhunm make use of our cutie, but he hasn't brutalized him physically. If it was modern times, we'd say Seungho was a psychopath. Inhun is just ambitious and uses people (which in societies where advancement requires you suck up to those with power and money or you get nowhere as a scholar, ie you need a patron, just like artists, sucking up is necessary.)

It isn't Inhun with a sword out to kill someone out of a fit of anger. It's Seungho. It isn't Inhun requiring a blowjob in order not to kill someone.

Now, that Inhun may or may not have trauma, may or may not be capable of rape and murder--we cannot say yet. We simply have not been given the information. He's not likable, bu tthen neither is the murderer/rapist Seungho. He's interesing, but not likable.

Seungho looks down on everyone, too. He uses people. He kills people. He abuses his power. So, let's not make him out to be some misunderstood guy. HE's a psycho. And if you're gonna judge by the time period, then Inhun's behavior is not inconsistent (ie judging homosexuality and looking down on the uneducated).

Hmm I guess I just like Seung Ho's brand of crazy then. And no I dont think Inhun's rejection or homosexuality / sexuality generally is a correct reflection of the times. Them ancient people had tons of out and about gays.

Also nothing about Seung Ho screams particularly insane to me. He's volatile but he knows what he's doing and the consequences thereof. I like his brand of outright violence. He doesn't pretend. I find the pretend to be righteous trope far more insidious.

All societies have had gays. But not all societies saw them as equal or as good as straights. Even in ancient Greece, which had gods cavorting with same sex partners and art depicting homosexual relations, they had regulated relations and expected marriage--and looked down on "receivers" (ie ukes). Even now, China is not gay-friendly. You think it was gay friendly 200, 300, or 1000 years ago?

The fact remains that Seungho is interesting, but he's evil. And to say he's not evil is to be blinded by hotness or porn. He's evil.

But korea and Japan had pretty prominent gay culture (definitely in the joseon) and up until the ww2 in Japan. Like out in the open, considered a male thing, especially amongst nobility. This is not about china at all lol...

The issue with Inhun is that he has no business having an opinion.

And I'm not blinded by his hotness I just know which kinda problematic I'd rather deal with. In the 29 spoiler, Inhun went from shaming Nakyum for painting gay sex to telling him outright just to do it. Wtf kinda shit is that lol.

I'm not saying Seungho is not bad, I'm saying he is redeemable. I don't think he is evil for sure though so shrugs.

If Seungho is redeemable, then so is Inhun. Because, at this point, Seungho has committed more evil acts than Inhun. And Seungho is evil, unless you think rape and murder are fine.

Just give up lol he/she is clearly biased

Ya I hate assholes (๑•ㅂ•)و✧