Hrumph

Rather than that, I think this time it was actual seduction. Because he said "you're in my arms" not "you're in my hands".

"You're in my arms" has no violent connotation, as it can just mean "you're with me", unlike "you're in my hands" which means "you're in my power".

I'd say that it was consensual but!! they definitely need a safe word!

Ok realistically speaking if a person I previously had sex with grabbed me, dragged me to a room, threw me on the bed, ripped my shirt open, blindfolded me, and started groping me it would not matter what terminology they used. Even if you feel that the words they're using have no violent connections their actions certainly do. But we're not talking about reality we're talking about fantasy and this weird gray area we call yaoi. So in the context of the manga I still feel like his actions were over the top and a bit uncalled for. Wasn't the president on a marriage date? We as readers know he was going to turn it down but he never mentioned that to his secretary. Then he has the nerve to get jealous when he sees him with another guy. No not just jealous INSANELY jealous. I feel like the author could have gotten the same point of the president's possessiveness and jealousy across without the violence and dubious consent.

Well, not exactly... If a person you previously had sex with grabs you and takes you to a room, in front of everybody, and you *go along* with it, that's not dubious consent, that is called "making a scene" in his case, and in your case "going along just in order to avoid making an even *bigger* scene" (we've all been there...). If once you're alone in a room, he rips your shirt open, blindfolds you, and starts groping, but you not only go along with it, but also end up agreeing to a *quickie* (like Suha just did), then that's not dubious consent either, that is "seduction" and "foreplay"... Suha's problem with the Director's behavior at the lobby was not because he was being aggressive, it was because he was causing a scene in public, and his own behavior at the end of the seme's antics authomatically invalidated any chances of saying it was dubious consent, because we have to take into account that there *are* people with this kind of weird tastes for these kinds of "kinkiness" or whatever, out there, and this character is clearly a representation of those kinds of people.

And I'm pretty positive he wasn't with Miss Choi on a marriage date. I think both parties need to and agree to having one, then arrange the time and place, andso far Director Park's been playing dumb whenever Choi father hints that he wants them to arrange one.

Could also be coercion. If you feel forced to agree to something to avoid something else, then that’s no longer on the same level as consent. On top of all that, there’s no way someone who is familiar with anal sex doesn’t know he can’t just ram his dick into someone just because they say “get it over with”. Even people who have an inclination for this kind of aggressive sex usually talk about it with their partner and set clear expectations and safe words and it’s consensual rather than out of anger

Definitely, that's something I can agree with 100%. Director Park's a complete asswipe, even if he's not a rapist... and Suha's detachment and compartmentalizing habit is becoming annoyingly ridiculous, as if thinks everything will work itself out and the like it's not his business to set any boundaries, even if the other person keeps getting way out of line, because he just likes to "go with the flow"... Since he can't even manage to prevent self-entitled former one-last-stands from getting all touchy feely, like with that obnoxious hotel guy (the one of the "communal property" comment), then his self-esteem issues are really no joke, aparently. I even got the feeling he asked that hotel douchebag to sleep with him, that time in the flashback, as a way to "punish" himself for some heartbroken unrequited love for some straight and married guy, or even, for yet another another douchebag...