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THANK YOU for putting my exact thoughts into words.

Yes, you encapsulate my thoughts perfectly. Miura is just trying to live out the straight savior trope. And that’s why I dislike her greatly because she plays the fool and the victim while masquerading as a support to Jun and gay people.

I mean, who in their right mind that actually cares for LGBT rights and issues would still push for a straight relationship between herself and a known gay man?

Like, it’s not hard to see that Jun has developed a fondness for her. But as a friend, and not in a romantic sense. (I mean it's obvious Jun does not see her in a romantic light no matter how hard he tries - failed sex and couldn’t get hard with her). So like, why push the issue and force the relationship along? It’s not hard to respect another person’s boundary.

If Miura really wanted to support Jun, then she could’ve very well severed off the bf / gf relationship, and just stayed by Jun’s side as a supportive friend if that was the case.

I can see why people find Miura endearing, (because she’s not giving up on Jun in her forced straight relationship between them) but I think that glosses over a more insidious thought process (ie. Miura‘s subtext to her statement that she’s not giving up on Jun belies her true thoughts is that being gay isn’t normal, which is why she keeps pushing for a straight relationship with Jun. and that’s why I agree she has a straight savior complex.

Jun is indeed confused how he feels about Miura. He has yet to decipher what Mr. Fahrenheit means by "soft like" and "hard like", and that's the only analogy to describe their relationship.

I also agree with you that Miura has yet to learn to let go of him because while Jun is willingly sticking with her in this relationship, and also loving it himself for reasons he cannot describe yet (perhaps because it's the easiest way he knows somebody will always be with him). He cannot be the one to break this off, Miura has to. He is too attached to this person that gives him so much affection and care in him as a person. So if she doesn't, it's more likely the two will get hurt more than succeed in their pursuit of "love" and "making a family". After all, they still both far too young and still soul-searching themselves.

Miura does not know enough about how to deal with the situation despite how hard she tries for Jun, and Jun doesn't know enough about what he wants to really take her along for the journey. But I will say this—they author is implying their soulmates. Not in the sexual sense, but in an emotional sense that borderlines romantic but maybe not quite as that's hard to say right now. This situation is comparable only to Freddie Mercury and his common-law-wife, which was the only person to get his ashes rather than his boyfriend. So I can't say it's necessarily fair to describe her as the straight-savior. More like the two just "click" and therefore are drawn to each other that makes them push past territory that is not normal between a homosexual and a straight person.

(Also...When they did try sex, he got slightly hard. It was actually going to work had she not dropped his name. Problem is, he wouldn't have enjoyed it. The story of many homosexuals that try to conform to society.)

Hmmm. Interesting take. I can see why you might think I'm too hard on Miura, but until Miura relegates herself to supportive friend position instead of entertaining thoughts of a romantic relationship with Jun. Its hard for me to see her as anything but self serving and a straight-savior doing performative activism.

(I mean sure, she stopped the fight between Ono and Jun from full on fisticuffs. But she did not follow up with Ono to ensure his silence on Jun's sexuality. Nor did she stop her 'big sister's friend' and fellow fujoshi in directing her own boyfriend into groping Jun and making him uncomfortable, nor console Jun after the fact.- Rather, she and the 'big sister' friend took photos of the spectacle earlier in the story ch 4) ( http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/what_she_likes_are_homos_and_not_me/uu/iur_chapter-4/pg-36/)

Which is why I say she's not a true ally and is just straight-savior doing performative activism.

Also, if she's truly an ally of the LGBTQ+ community and understands gay people, then how can you explain her make sweeping generalizations that all gay men are cheaters who use women for their own gain? (ch 6)

> ( http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/what_she_likes_are_homos_and_not_me/uu/nhs_v-2-chapter-742482/pg-21/)
> ( http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/what_she_likes_are_homos_and_not_me/uu/nhs_v-2-chapter-742482/pg-22/)

Then after all of that with Jun coming clean about being gay, why is that she still seeks to foster a romantic relationship with a gay man? ( http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/what_she_likes_are_homos_and_not_me/uu/nhs_v-2-chapter-743398/pg-15/)

Then why does she take issue with changing her position from gf to supportive friend? Why does she keep trying to push for a straight relationship with Jun, who she knows for a fact is gay? If she truly had Jun's best interests in mind, wouldn't she have no issue with changing her position from gf to supportive friend? This is why I say she's not a true ally and is just straight-savior doing performative activism (e.g. she can't be homophobic because she likes and defends fictional BL characters for her hobby, despite the fact that she literally reject Jun for being gay and generalized that all gay people as being cheaters)

And that's ignoring what she said in at the end of ch 1, where she said that gay people don't exist around her. ( http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/what_she_likes_are_homos_and_not_me/uu/mpn_chapter-2330383/48/)

Which is why I find Miura to be such a problematic character, since she literally continues to force the subtext narrative of how Jun can be saved if he gets into a relationship with her, and so that's why she isn't going to give up on him. When the literal subtext under all of her inactions and words, is that she doesn't think gay people exist irl. Therefore, that's why she's fine with pushing a straight relationship on a gay man and its okay because she's "saving" Jun from being gay.

I understand where you're coming from with the first part. For the photos with the sister, she did so something horrible even if he wasn't a homosexual. But she was still stuck in her delusion and as far as I see now, she realizes her wrongs and is taking the steps to try and get closer to Jun and understand that side of him—for both their sakes. Doesn't mean its right and I hope this memory haunts her as a reminder of what NOT to do.

However, I can't understand why you linked the parts when she confronted Jun about homosexuals using girls as accessories, though...She had her heart BROKEN. She said something abit insensitive, but her message was pure. Jun himself understood that, too. He didn't refute it inside he shared why he accepted her confession and what he hoped to get out of it. Meanwhile, Miura was trying to have Jun see (if he hasn't already) what he and other homosexuals in Japan sometimes do; use women as a cover. Heck, even Makoto mentioned gay people in Japan LOATHING these people. But Miura didn't see that and instead was expressing her (rightfully justified) anger before later realizing Jun was also suffering. Therefore, she couldn't hate him.

Also, that page where she won't let him "go" in the relationship was her being a flirt. If you saw the end card I wrote, the novel expanded on it further as Jun LOVING she did that. She made him feel warm—wanted. But Jun still had full power to tell Miura no and if he did there, I am sure Miura would. She loves Jun but I doubt she'll be abusive and keep him with her. They're both consenting here, whether that's appropriate or not is not the point there.

As for that line in chapter 1, Miura is saying she doubts someone like that would really exist around her. She lives in Japan, people like that are not open about it so it seems more "rare" than it actually is. I take it more as her being ignorant, not as you call it, a straight savior. I know what you're getting at in that she NEEDS to improve her approach, but I suppose I'm more willing to forgive her actions as she stumbles and falls in her attempt to communicate with Jun. I also believe Jun is a big issue in what happens in this series ever since chapter 2. My heart goes out to him, but a lot of what happened was because of his desire to "Want It All". So Miura isn't the one out to save him, if anything Jun wanted to save himself through her. It's unhealthy, though.

All in all, chapter 10 is being set up at the chapter where Miura opens up about what she thinks about Jun's situation and how she sees him suffering. The "talk" is them putting everything on the table and working through who they are as people and what that means to each other in the relationship they still have going on.

Okay, I can definitely see where you're coming from especially since it seems you've already read the novel. I guess I need more background and context that what I can glean from the manga. Thanks for working on this complex series! Do you mind linking the novel?

Thanks in advance (▰˘◡˘▰) !

If you want to support the author you can buy it on booklive.jp, my favorite place to buy my raws. The novel version is the most polished and detailed version, but if you rather a free copy and don't mind the missing descriptions, the web novel is still available. Just look for a website titled novel18.syosetu after google searching the title "彼女が好きなものはホモであって僕ではない".

Bless you for providing multiple alternatives to accessing the novel!
As well providing a method to support the author for those who can afford it!
Much appreciated (▰˘◡˘▰)! Thank you Yabaibunni!

I just have to say that I am so happy that there was a healthy debate going on here! I love it! Two educated readers being honest and respectful! ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

I need more practice of that!

I completely agree with everything you’re saying and I really hope this story doesn’t go in a direction where Miura and Jun end up together because he is gay and he has no interest in girls but it seems like Muira is holding onto the fact that they’re dating which kinda shows that she is putting her feeling above Jun’s in a sense because she won’t take a step back and instead become a supportive friend of Jun instead of insisting on being his lover. I hope Jun ends up with a nice man and I hope Muira also ends up with a nice man and they can continue to be friends.