What’s with this fantasy of straight women turning gay men

Sunfluxx August 28, 2020 10:49 pm

I’m seeing a lot more of it
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Responses
    lena August 28, 2020 10:23 pm

    for real

    SS_Yukine September 10, 2020 2:52 am

    There is sooo many yaoi/shounen ai that shows straight men suddenly turning gay, why not show a reverse situation too?
    Besides, this dude wasn't really gay. It was a misunderstanding.

    SS_Yukine September 10, 2020 2:54 am

    But still he shouldn't have lied about his sexuality just to get close to her, that's really messed up! o.O

    Sunfluxx September 10, 2020 7:34 pm
    There is sooo many yaoi/shounen ai that shows straight men suddenly turning gay, why not show a reverse situation too? Besides, this dude wasn't really gay. It was a misunderstanding. SS_Yukine

    ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭meh, something ain’t feel right

    Momokyun February 21, 2021 10:05 pm

    Why not? In Yaoi there's a loooooooooooot of straight guy magically turning gay. So why the reverse situation shouldn't be ok? That's double standard right there

    Sunfluxx February 22, 2021 1:50 am
    Why not? In Yaoi there's a loooooooooooot of straight guy magically turning gay. So why the reverse situation shouldn't be ok? That's double standard right there Momokyun

    None of those men were straight in the first place and second, a majority of men in Yaoi are bisexual. Plus being homosexual is still seen as a crime in today world. Never seen a straight man be killed for being straight ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    SS_Yukine February 22, 2021 3:47 am
    None of those men were straight in the first place and second, a majority of men in Yaoi are bisexual. Plus being homosexual is still seen as a crime in today world. Never seen a straight man be killed for bein... Sunfluxx

    It's terrible that this happens in our society. But that has nothing to do with what we're discussing here. There are yaoi with gay people from the start, but there is also a HUGE amount of yaoi that suddenly turns straight men gay out of nowhere...
    There’s so much yaoi consisting of straight men turning gay but nobody ever complains about them lol

    Sunfluxx February 22, 2021 10:58 am
    It's terrible that this happens in our society. But that has nothing to do with what we're discussing here. There are yaoi with gay people from the start, but there is also a HUGE amount of yaoi that suddenly t... SS_Yukine

    Because those men were never straight to being with as I already said. Besides I said all this ish back in September, you guys are hella late.

    Momokyun February 22, 2021 6:34 pm
    Because those men were never straight to being with as I already said. Besides I said all this ish back in September, you guys are hella late. Sunfluxx

    Ok so apparently you know those character better than what the mangaka wanted them to be...Have some humility
    If you want to defend gay peoole and their rights , you're not doing it the right way. Because having double standards will just make the cause you're fighting for look ridiculous.

    Momokyun February 22, 2021 6:46 pm

    It seems to me that you kinda hate straight people. I hope I'm wrong. Because, yes, you're right, straight men killing gay men because of their sexual orientation happened and I rarely saw the reverse situation, but what is the meaning behind this statement right there? Why would you say that? It's not because some straight people bullied gays people that you should enter a hate loop and hate on straight persons. We have to love each over. Sexual orientation is supposed to be something intimate anyway, it's not supposed to be known and it's far for being the only thing that define you. So we don't even care if you're gay or straight or bi. Nowadays it looks like people give a lot of importance about your sexual orientation, being gay is seen cool, being straight is seen as being a normie (straight tiktok). I hate this and it looks like to me that you're doing the same. Being gay or straight or bi is not a trend .

    Sunfluxx February 22, 2021 8:45 pm
    Ok so apparently you know those character better than what the mangaka wanted them to be...Have some humilityIf you want to defend gay peoole and their rights , you're not doing it the right way. Because having... Momokyun

    Never said I know the characters better than the mangaka? ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ but it’s a pattern I begin to see but yeah sure whatever

    Sunfluxx February 22, 2021 8:46 pm
    It seems to me that you kinda hate straight people. I hope I'm wrong. Because, yes, you're right, straight men killing gay men because of their sexual orientation happened and I rarely saw the reverse situation... Momokyun

    I did not read any of this, gonna be honest ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ my statement and my opinion still stands, but thanks for taking the time to write a ton of stuff for me.

    I’m flattered! Have a blessed day!

    Momokyun February 23, 2021 9:44 pm

    Ok, you missed your chance to be a little more bright on this matter, but well it was to be expected... Your loss ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    Have a good day too!

    I like bishounens March 5, 2021 2:20 am
    Why not? In Yaoi there's a loooooooooooot of straight guy magically turning gay. So why the reverse situation shouldn't be ok? That's double standard right there Momokyun

    Sadly, it's poor storytelling in any genre. The numbers of manga that go in depth about realizing one's own sexuality isn't what they thought are few, compared to this trope made to create and resolve conflict in a few pages; A very convenient wish fulfillment fantasy.

    Maybe people just move on because (in here) they're already reading a pirated manga, why to top on that should they go bother the author?

    But I can understand why anyone is getting put off by this being used in a gay to straight context.

    If this is a genuine question, please consider this:

    It's not the same to compare "straight turning gay" to "gay turning straight" because being gay is being vulnerable to society's violence. see: conservative movements that want to take away gay people's rights, parents that disown kids, being killed in the streets. Being straight is being "safe", at least from tragedies that happen to lgbt+ because they are lgbt+, because straight people fit society's conformation.

    Tl, dr: maybe it's a double standard, yeah. Maybe we live in a unfair world full of harmful double standards.

    I was just bored and typed out all this.

    I'm not bored anymore now (Thanks!) So no need to bother replying, I won't engage.