first of all i kinda agree? i think ahaha i’ll have to do more reflecting and think about it. i think i agree with most of what u said. i’m mostly commenting bc lmao we wrote ours at about the same time djdkkd this story be making us write whole ass essays
okay reflection time done.
i used be more of a taku stan type of person but as i’ve grown older i find myself being more of a joowon stan type of person. so in a way i am mix of both and i also lowkey stan both but lean a bit more towards joowon so this is actually really quite accurate
sis i feel you about that essay thing. i’ve written so much for LoH i’m lowkey embarrassed but writing your thoughts out is healthy i think. also feel you about being a taku stan because honestly me too. i did like him a lot early on, but somewhere along these 80+ chapters i just sort of stopped and i can’t pinpoint why.
omg glad to know someone else feels the same way djdk i literally went off in my friends dms just a bit ago she’s gonna wake up to quite a surprise
oh and i actually meant the personality traits wise djkdkd. bc i like joowon a bit more than taku. i am my current self but parts of my younger self are still there. i possess more joowon stan qualities but i also possess some taku stan qualities. if that makes sense?
ugh this!!! a dream is the perfect way to describe their situation. it also ties in really well with ch. 80’s nightmares and being the one to wake yourself up from it all. there’s so much good analysis (and bad lol) here and im praying that youngha is actually a mastermind and not just dragging this triangle on only to take the easiest way out :/
people who call themselves realists are the most delusional omg you're really thinking its more realistic to save a relationship that failed for 10 years than having a romantic love story where two save each other? oh girl, i know so many people who had a similar story like t&h, but j&h's? not one single couple
chill. i’m kind of sick of your responses tbh. somehow you always manage to ruin peaceful and thoughtful discussions—but oh well, i supposed that’s a taku stan. and i’m also not surprised by how many taku stans are butthurt by the word “realist”. how are you not mistaking infatuation with love? try falling in love with someone in a month, okay?
also not surprised by how many taku stans were too butthurt by the word “realist” that they didn’t understand anything that i was talking about, which was LITERARY realism and LITERARY romanticism. as in, the fucking literature movements that exhibited the qualities that i listed above. not realism: what you’ve seen before and what you haven’t.
I agree with this. Nice insight. Taku stans wouldn't be happy to see this though. The truth is bitter.
How many years have you lived for and how many people do you know in life out billions of people in the world. Because you haven't seen doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
why are you telling me to try falling in love with someone within a month? you think its that hard? its really not.
and yes it did trigger me because there's nothing that triggers me more than joowon stans using the word realist
i’m just going to say one last thing before i block you: everything you just said proves exactly why taku stans are NOT realists. does taku like haesoo? of course. does haesoo like taku back? maybe. have they been through trial and error, been forced to use communication—ever even left the honeymoon stage of their relationship? absolutely not. even your phrasing that their relationship is about “saving each other” is hopelessly romantic. versus with joowon, people want rebuilding, for them to talk, to repair. nothing has ever been unrealistic about that
Preach!!!!!!!! I don't even know how they are saving each other. When taku is hurt in every chapter by haesoo. Taku himself is confused. He thinks he loves haesoo but what do I know.
honestly. nothing pisses ME off more than when taku stans preach that their relationship is about saving. please, problems like a long on and off relationship can’t be solved by directly entering a new one. building a relationship off of a savior mentality—THATS how codependency starts.
Where is the comfort. Taku is constantly stressed that haesoo doesn't love him and haesoo is constantly stressed about jowoon and his relationship with taku he is scared that his selfishness will hurt him. So tell me where is the comfort. They are together physically not emotionally. They are always thinking about stuff.
Do you really think that they will last long. The thread holding taku's sanity is getting thinner and thinner. How long will he last before he lose the sanity. Jowoon and haesoo needs closure. Because it doesn't make sense for them to meet in the future and everything becomes awkward with plenty tension.
Lmfao since when relationships save people. They can help but in the end it's all about you.
Lmfao so triggered about word realistic?
For real.
Exactly. Very good point and good OP.
On the serious note. I'm curious... Why they can't be realistic? Because I myself know few, problematic relationships which after many fails, problems in the end made it.
I also know relationships or read about such...which were supposed to be healing, were perfect which not only failed but ended in tragedy.
So tbh there is no rule.
I think every fan has different reasoning but I notice that many fans shallow the story to "poor damsel in distress being saved by prince charming from abusive, toxic satanic ex".
Unfortunately or rather fortunately the story is not so simple. Haesoo is not helpless, innocent damsel in distress. Taku isn't perfect prince charming. And Joowon is not toxic satan without positive qualities.
based on my observations, i’m going out on a limb here to say that taku stans are romantics and joowon stans are realists. of course there are exceptions, but I’ve noticed certain trends.
romantic. if you’re a taku stan i’m going to assume a few things. You like the idea of running away from society with someone you just met. You often mistake infatuation with love, and your favorite part of a relationship is the beginning. You love love, but more so the idea of it and what it represents—perhaps not what it really is. Taku and Haesoo’s relationship and how “comforting” (as i’ve seen many use at face value) it appears on the outside is a fantastic representation of what love represents.
realist. if you’re a joowon stan (this is combined with my own experience) it’s because you’re attracted to the sheer complexity of their relationship. you’re also sort of a masochist, because you love how their story demonstrates how easily a relationship can shatter due to lack of communication, societal pressures, careers and fear. but, above all else, what you’re really a sucker for is the careful rebuilding of a relationship after these flaws are addressed. maybe, although this IS entirely dependent on the route Youngha takes, Joowon and Haesoo’s relationship is meant to portray what love is beneath the surface