Totally agree. That character both of them have is terrible. Ru-da staying quiet while knowing it wasnt her and letting her being isolated and intimated so he can have take claim over her... sick. I'm glad ju in recorded that haha
I called them both "apathetic manipulators."
"So, Ruda and Ju In are both apathetic manipulators..."
I don't like Ju In either. However, my comment was primarily focusing on Ruda, not Ju In. I did not give any personal feelings in regards to Ju In, whether I liked him or not. i stated in this one I don't like him, but my original comment COMPARED him to Ruda and trash talked him too. I never made an exception, instead discussing differences between how they hurt people, primarily discussing Ruda as that is who we are learning about in this chapter.
So their conversation basically went as such, to any who couldn't understand it.
Ruda was already aware of the person who is bullying Dani, but he's fine with it. Because he likes her he doesn't care if she gets mentally broken and isolated because he would be able to use that to his advantage to make her depend solely on him and believe that it's out of her own free will. Yeah,, gaslighting, manipulation,,,, fucked up. But instead of getting mad, Ju In kind of laughs because he's similar - in that he's very apathetic and manipulative in regards to people as well. However, *because* Ju In likes Dani and knows her, he would never want to manipulate her or let her be manipulated and hurt, instead being content with hurting others to protect her - the exact opposite of Ruda.
So, Ruda and Ju In are both apathetic manipulators, but while Ruda wants to gaslight and isolate the people he likes in order for him to become the only one they can rely on, Ju In wants the people he loves to be happy and will hurt others to protect them.
I don't care if Ruda redeems himself. That's some creepy, abusive, narcissistic yandere shit.
If anyone you know is in a relationship where their partner is cutting them off from the world, fucking reach out to them. It's a classic abuse tactic to isolate their target and convince them they're the only person to rely on. I'm not excusing Ju In, who is okay with hurting others to get to his own goals, even those who are innocent, but Ruda is straight up the poster child for someone you would abuse you in a relationship. Manipulation, gaslighting, and isolating a person IS abuse. It doesn't need to be physical. Don't romanticize Ruda and normalize this concept.