FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT
Fictional characters cannot be fetishized...
I agree. Nothing is wrong with him being a boy or a girl as long as they like each other. People really need to stop fetishizing them.
hmm I get what you mean but in my opinion if in the plot he only does it when he's a woman then it makes me believe he doesn't like him when he's a man still I wouldn't care if they didn't show them doing it just as long as they say it but I do get your point cause even in shonen ai where there is no sex a lot of ppl complain just cause they want to see dudes going at it
RIGHT
Bruh finally someone said it omg
some of y’all are reading this for the plot but i just wanna see female shion getting it with rui
Exit the premise please
I don't care about gender as long as they end up together
Think for a moment. Y’all throw the word fetishize at anything. Some consider even reading yaoi fetishizing. Just because I want to see two character fuck each other doesn’t mean I fetishize gay relationships. (Im not imaging that for this story). When I see two gay men in real life my first thought isn’t “How do they fuck?” or “Omg they are so hot together.” It’s “Yes be confident in yourselves kings.” Morals don’t apply when reading fictional things because it remains fiction in the end.
Morals do apply. What you want to read/look at reflect what you want in real life. Like i only think it's fetishization if you only read or watch something for the sole purpose of seeing two men fuck. If that's not the sole purpose, then that's fine. Like if read a story for the rape or liked the rape, then it is clear you're a fucked up individual. I think it is fine to enjoy reading yaoi/bl and ths like so long as you're not just doing that to see two dudes fuck.
Rape is a popular sexual fantasy amongst those within the BDSM realm. I am someone who has a rape kink. I never want to be raped in real life nor do I want that to happen to anybody else. To be honest I wish they would just castrate rapists. Anyways, it is the dominant and submissive nature of the situation that is the turn on. Being forced to take pleasure. To be completely dominated or dominate somebody else. It is not about harming the individual.
People who like to read about serial killers do not want to become one or support them.
I also thought that same way as you do. I can understand how uncomfortable it is to think about it or even empathize with others who like it. Most of us try to be morally right in our everyday lives. So I know that you are trying to say what you think is right. But things aren’t so black and white when it comes to these dilemmas. The grey area is incredibly large.
No, no. With rape and a rape kink there is the difference of consent. If you invlove that kink into sex, there is established consent. When I say that someone reads for the rape/enjoys the rape, in talking about in the way where there is no established consent at all and that is why they read/enjoy it. That reflects the unconscious want to be in a situation like that or to simply have that much control over someone else( like you said).
People who read about serial killers may want to do similar things if they are solely reading for the things that the serial killer does and not the plot.
I am aware there is a large grey area in many cases, but not all of them. My point is, if you read/watch something so let for the aspect that is definitively wrong, then that is wrong to do.
The whole existence of the rape kink in sex is the imagined forced nature of the situation. It’s pretty much roleplay. That is where fictional content such as manga and writings that have rape are read in order to fulfill that desire in the same way as sex. However, I believe the importance is not whether someone chooses to look at it or not look at it. But if they romanticize the action. If a bottom is raped and then is in a romantic relationship with the rapist without any kind of apology or redemption (either way I don’t forgive it) it is disgusting and harmful to the readers view of love.
I look at fictional rape scenes from a strictly sexual standpoint. If the bottom looks like they are in pain I do not continue it. If they look traumatized I do not continue it. If there life is ruined by the act I do not continue it. Because even in that forced situation I still want for both parties to find pleasure in the act. Many who share my kink feel the same way.
As for serial killers it’s more of trying to get into the mind of the serial killer. For many it’s all about the psychology. What is wrong with their brain chemistry? What abuse or traumatic event triggered the serial killer? What are their motives in the killings? How did they get caught? Why didn’t they get caught? Why did they choose these victims?
I'm kinda tempted to block you...
I’m only spitting facts my dude (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
No facts, just statements and weird opinions on how you feel... yes... I'm blocking you.
yo you went offffff
You didn't really listen to what I said at all.
Rape play has ESTABLISHED CONSENT, rape DOES NOT.
If you only read a story for the obvious rape and enjoy the obvious rape because it is rape, then you have a problem.
Fiction or not, if there was no consent/consent was taken away then it is straight up rape and not ok.
Those are fine reasons to read stories about serial killers because that's the psychological/thriller aspect, but reading it simply for the killing and enjoying only the killing does show that that person has an issue.
Of I'm annoying you, I'll stop commenting.
The way y'all fetishize men having sex or just two guys in general. All y'all keep saying you don't like it when he gender bends into girl and then come up with 100 excuses why. Like no, your fetishizing these men and don't like it when men and women are doing it because it's "weird". Rui is hot as male and female and I don't mind him having sex in both genders. Why would you all read something that clearly involves hetero sex and then get upset when you see hetero sex. Like stop being weird and quit reading it.