NO GOD PLS NO

Azusa December 25, 2020 7:57 pm

Everything was so good but why— whyyyyy does he have to be all cliche and go to a love hotel with the next guy who looks like Kitaoji Σ(っ°Д °;)っ

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    LadyBelle December 25, 2020 8:03 pm

    Because people that remain single for their entire life just in hopes of their crush one day liking them back usually don't end up with anything but being alone.

    Azusa December 25, 2020 8:10 pm
    Because people that remain single for their entire life just in hopes of their crush one day liking them back usually don't end up with anything but being alone. LadyBelle

    Yeah but Kitaoji literally told him he would like to try dating twice. He’s been a straight otaku up to this point so it’s natural he would be surprised by a guy liking him and asking him about sex all of a sudden. So it’s not like the train already left the station (is that also a thing to say in english?).

    And i don’t know if it’s just me but if I was heartbroken about my crush, I wouldn’t be able to go have sex with the next random dude (or anyone at all).

    Anyhow, if Arima ends up alone it’s most probably not bc his crush didn’t like him back but bc he rejected someone by judging their love wasn’t enough for him.

    Azusa December 25, 2020 8:22 pm
    Yeah but Kitaoji literally told him he would like to try dating twice. He’s been a straight otaku up to this point so it’s natural he would be surprised by a guy liking him and asking him about sex all of a... Azusa

    Also if you’re wondering why I dislike Arima, I just hate this "Uhm I won’t believe you love me until you show me in a way that satisfies me" attitude.
    My relationship started with my boyfriend confessing and me being like "ok you don’t seem half bad, let’s try this and see if I fall in love" and we’ve been together for three years now.
    What is there to lose if they tried dating? If it works out, that’s great for both parties and if it doesn’t, they can cut it off and go their own ways again. They would’ve tried it at least. At the start of a relationship, you never know how it’ll play out. If the happiest married couple in the world had been too afraid of getting hurt at the start, it would have never worked out.
    So what I’m saying is if he won’t take the risk of getting into a relationship, he will inevitably have to stay alone.

    The lustful spirit December 25, 2020 10:01 pm
    Also if you’re wondering why I dislike Arima, I just hate this "Uhm I won’t believe you love me until you show me in a way that satisfies me" attitude. My relationship started with my boyfriend confessing a... Azusa

    Well tbh not everyone has the courage to take risks or just go for it. You would have to see things from Arima's perspective. Arima fell in love with a straight guy, so he probably thought his love would be unrequited. Having Kitaoji say he would try dating him would just make Arima put up a wall because let's say if Arima did agree and they did start dating, Arima's feelings for Kitaoji would obviously grow even more to a point where he would want to do intimate things with Kita. However, not knowing how Kita truly feels and if their feelings for each other are the same, just makes Arima doubt Kita. There will always be doubt and fear in a relationship, that's why you need reassurance.

    Also yes, we won't know how their relationship would go about and that's for them to decide how it will go. But the one that would suffer the most would be Arima. Everyone is scared to be hurt by the person they love the most.

    Also, see how you wrote this from your perspective and how you would have done things. Not everyone can relate to you or understand you because everyone is different when it comes to handling relationships and feelings.

    Btw we know they are obviously going to go through some things that will irritate us and make us pissed but eventually they'll end up together. (Unless the author changes it)

    LadyBelle December 25, 2020 10:06 pm
    Also if you’re wondering why I dislike Arima, I just hate this "Uhm I won’t believe you love me until you show me in a way that satisfies me" attitude. My relationship started with my boyfriend confessing a... Azusa

    That may have worked for you and your boyfriend, but really what risk was there if it doesn't work out? Considering they would have to still work together, there is a chance the one could be outed as gay and have his life ruined, and the fact the one could lose his first friend all means there is way more at risk than just going separate ways. This is also a country where the person could be fired or even black listed from working if it became known he was gay.

    Ivanna December 25, 2020 10:24 pm

    I was thinking the same.

    Azusa December 25, 2020 11:11 pm
    That may have worked for you and your boyfriend, but really what risk was there if it doesn't work out? Considering they would have to still work together, there is a chance the one could be outed as gay and ha... LadyBelle

    The risk for the relationship not working out is almost the same as it is now. If things stay this way, Kitaoji definitely loses his first friend and if he were to suddenly turn evil or something, he could also out Arima at the company (I just skimmed through the wikipedia article concerning lgbtq+ rights in Japan and 1. according to a poll over 50% of the population are in favor of homosexuality being accepted by society and 2. in Tokyo, where i think this manga to be set, exist anti-discrimination laws in employment, which means Arima probably wouldn’t be fired just for being gay).

    Yes, people think differently and opinions of the same situation vary due to personal experiences but I just think it would be a waste to throw everything away before really trying it. If what the sister said is right, Arima liked Kitaoji for quite a while and even starting reading a lot more shoujo manga just so he can talk about them with Kitaoji. And now he just wants to throw away all his effort? He knew Kitaoji was straight and an airhead from the beginning and he still loves him. He may as well see it through until the end.
    As for the hurt part, Arima already is hurt (if we believe his sister) and it’s the "this is the end" kinda hurt, meaning it’s a similar hurt to the end of a relationship. I mean just try it already argh.

    (They’re gonna end up together anyways, we all know it) (Kitaoji will probably run to Arima and confess his love again and then they get into that hotel together or something and we get the happy ending) ( ̄∇ ̄")

    dracolynn December 26, 2020 2:16 am
    The risk for the relationship not working out is almost the same as it is now. If things stay this way, Kitaoji definitely loses his first friend and if he were to suddenly turn evil or something, he could also... Azusa

    Sorry, but it's a bit naive to read a wikipedia-article and assume everything is fine and dandy. Even though there are law forbidding discrimination it happens EVERY DAY.
    Even though half the population say they're okay with homosexuality doesn't mean they're actually okay when faced with it. A lot of people lose friends and family and their good reputation for being gay.
    Even though anti-discrimination laws exist, it's not easy to prove unjust termination.

    I feel for Arima. Kita's proposal was not thought through. If a guy I've been IN LOVE with forever came to me and said he would TRY to look for his ideal relationship with me - but no promises, I would have been devestated.