
EXACTLY!!! It's unfair to leave us high and dry like that. I only wish there was a LEGAL way for the fans to purchase the manga online. I know that scanlations technically "take away profit" from the artist and the distributors, but what are we supposed to do!?!? We can't even purchase the raw magazines if we want to. We have to buy the magazines from someone in Japan who is willing to mail the manga to our country if we actually want it bad enough. I'd be MORE than willing to legally purchase something if it was available to me.
This whole situation is also kind of frustrating because English speakers are part of the reason this manga got so popular in the first place. The scanlations managed to get the manga out there to a broader audience... and now all of us wont even get to see what happens anymore. Even when the manga becomes available next year it'll probably be JUST the first volume, then maybe 10+ months after that the second will become available. (any English translated manga I've purchased usually takes quite a while between books). So in reality we're looking at SEVERAL years of waiting for the volumes to be released. Unless there's one decent soul out there who's willing to continue up to date scanlations for the fans... we're all screwed.

True, I definitely agree...

Err... I'm ika, the one who translate the chapter every month along with my friend, 277k, who provides raws and cleans them and the admin of Canis Major Scans who does Ten Count too using tankobons.
It's not like we actually want to stop??? BUT WE CAN'T HELP IT. It's already licensed in English. We will get in trouble if we continue doing it. Especially it's SuBLime licensing it. You don't know how protective and strict they are about the titles they hold.
Did you know that even before this news about TC getting licensed, my account in Mediafire was suspended! :/ (along with my other uploads that are not related to TC, they got deleted! Ugh.) They are that strict! If we still continue doing it, they might report us and have our blogs deleted or other accounts in social media.
If you want to complain, then complain to SuBLime or just buy their version.
I'm also confused why titles like Naruto, One Piece, Kuroshitsuji or other non-yaoi licensed manga are still being scanlated (or was scanlated) even though they are licensed. But all I know is when it comes to BL/Yaoi English publishing companies, THEY ARE STRICT. Urgh. :/

I am sorry to hear you are having difficulties - fans will just have to suck it up - you should not have to get slammed or get yourself into trouble on account of a bunch of fans - and those who do not understand the complexities of what goes into scanlation and the trouble it can bring. I am also unsure as to why some titles are still allowed to be scanlated after licensing - seems a little unfair. Thank you for all your hard work up until now. Good luck with any future projects you may take on!

I certainly didn't mean what I said as an insult or anything. (After reading my first post again I realize I unintentionally sound quite pompous) I'm aware that there's EXTREMELY strict rules and whatnot when it comes to yaoi, and their publishers. I appreciate anyone who's willing to scan and translate manga.
As for this whole situation with Ten Count, I know it's not the scanlation groups fault. I don't blame you for letting the project go in order to spare your accounts! Like I said before, it's baffling how other manga are still being posted after licensing (and without repercussions). I think more than anything I'm just sad about missing out on the story I've grown so fond of. I genuinely appreciate all of the time everyone put into translating the manga thus far, and I'm saddened it can't continue. But I DO understand why things are the way they are. I suppose I just need time to heal from the wound SuBLime is leaving in my heart (haha)

Actually if only I'm not running a scanlation group or my love for sensei, then for all I care, I will scanlate it.
But then I have an image to protect lol I mean I don't want to risk my scan group. Also it's rude to sensei I guess. I love her so much and I guess by buying the English version will make her support too. But then again, in my case, I prefer buying the Japanese version cause that way, feels like I will truly support sensei than buying English. Just saying. :3
My friend and I will release ch23 and 24 soon. Translations are done. I'm just waiting for her cleans. Then after that, I guess we will stop from scanlating it. But I think maybe I can translate panel by panel or teasers for upcoming chapters or summaries. IDK yet. In my twitter though and not as a scanlated version. :'3

I'm not sure if I'm following you on twitter or not! I'll have to check. If there'll be ANY kind of information, however small it may be, I'll take it! haha
And I totally agree that it's (for lack of a better word) "unfair" to sensei when it comes to losing profits on her hard work. I would GLADLY buy the raw (and the translated) version if I could. Sadly, I don't have the connections in Japan to do so. I've tried looking into it on the Dear+ website and I don't think they ship to America. (not to my knowledge anyway) And I'm leery about buying the magazine from someone else online. I'd rather buy it directly from the source, you know?

Not only this mangaka but others will benefit when you buy the English versions. The US publishers pay a licensing fee to the Japanese license holder, a portion of which goes to the mangaka. If the US publisher sells out the printing, they must renegotiate the license and mangaka is compensated again. The more copies of this mana the US publisher sells, the more money they have to license future properties and the more manga available for readers to purchase.

I agree with you when you say the English speakers have a role with the popularity of the manga. All the yaoi readers on Internet have a role. That's why I can't completely understand the publishers.
I'm French and in France, 10 count is already published. We've had the possibility to buy the third volume since last july. But I've known 10 count thanks to the team which has started to do the scanlation. There're several stories that I've bought because I liked reading them here. I bought the three volumes of 10 count and I'll buy the next but I like to read the new chapters here because I'm too impatient to know what will happen next in this story.
I don't understand Japanese so I wouldn't buy the magazine Dear+, but I think the teams which are doing scanlations help the publishers more than they "steal" their potential customers. It's just my opinion though.
Anyway, I'm conscious we're lucky to have the books published in our countries but I'm sad that the teams will have to stop scanlating, especially for the readers who can't own or buy the BL stories. It's sad that the yaoi publishers are so strict and don't see what they can gain by being somehow promoted here.

Maybe it sounds bumb, but i thought of a perfect solution to all this if they werent so stingy. Sublime and shit should work with all you guys that do translation, editing and all that. Hell they should maybe even hire you guys. Then turn sites like mangago and other reading sites into membership sites. Anyone who buys manga knows its really expensice. They should just turn it into a manga version of netflix. Pay a monthly or yearly fee and you can view everything on site. And then sublime and all those sites get some profit, as well as you translators, plus they could help provide you with scans. And all of us readers could still enjoy what we love.

Well I think it's appropriate. Scanlation helps it getting popular yes, but it'll be useless if the mangaka themselves do not benefit from it. At least now we are left to wonder what will happen and so, buy the license.
What I hate about license is mostly the shipping fee. It's so outrageous sometimes. It would be super awesome if they're able to stock it in digital form.

I also agree with you about the license which remunerate the mangaka. That's why I buy the books when I like a story (if it's published here). It can take me some time to have the money but I have a list in my computer of "The BL to buy".
You're right about the shipping fees. It's sometimes a bit deterrent. The French publisher which is working on 10 count (if you order in France and buy at least 3 books at the same time) delivers without fees. We're lucky for that. There's an other publisher here which takes fees even if you buy several books at the same time. It depends on the publishers but it's not wise from them to add expensive shipping fees with the order.

Allow me to clear up some details.
National and international copyright laws prohibit the public display of altered or unaltered copyrighted material. Period. These brave scanlation groups risk harassment, personal and public internet accounts being suspended or revoked, internet service privileges being suspended or revoked, civil lawsuits, and criminal prosecution to bring all of us the manga we love. Every time they upload, they take that risk. Groups that "get away with it" have either been simply lucky and flown under the legal radar, or have felt the brunt of their choices at great cost and continued regardless.
Licensing is a sub-division of copyright. The license holder pays upfront to purchase the "right to sell copyright material" from the original publisher. They can alter the material (translation) only with the permission and approval of the original publisher and artist. They make back the purchase price plus profit through sales of the materials.
This site boasts 10,000 registered readers. If each "member" reads one, one volume manga for free, at an average cover price of $14.99, the publishers and artists, as a group, lose $149,900.00. Most members read multiple volumes of multiple manga. This does not even take into account the non-registered members. The lost profits overall for the manga industry are astronomical - just for this site. Consider the number of free manga sites out there and astronomical becomes incalculable. One artist may lose "a few dollars", but the industry, as a whole, loses far more to "free advertising".
I'm not providing an opinion as to whether "free manga" sites are right or wrong. I am a registered member with over 1350 manga read. It is not my place to make this determination. I am simply providing facts and information. My only opinion is that people should have information, so they can make informed choices.
While part of me is happy that Ten Count will (eventually) be available for English speakers to legitimately buy, I'm also VERY upset and saddened by it being dropped by all of the scanlation groups due to the licensing announcement. I'm assuming there will be SOMEONE out there who's willing to scan and translate it in the near future. I'm just a little confused as to why all of the scanlation groups are like "NOPE NOPE NOPE NOOOOOPE! Not touching it anymore!"- when I've read licensed manga online (Black Butler/Kuroshitsuji being one of them). I know there can be some legal complications involved. I understand that much. So how are other groups able to provide licensed manga?
It's moments like this that I wish I could read Japanese. Fuck licensing! I'd share it anyway. lol