Maybe is convenient because it was planed all along since the start of this manwha?
You Do understand this is a work of fiction made by an author that usually has planned most of the plot before starting it, right?
Maybe, just maybe, it was *you* the one that didn't understand the author's intentions and characters. Such a crazy idea, right?
Lmao what r u saying. Im just saying that it is convenient for the ML because now he has a reason why he acts like that. Now the MC would be forced to accept that what happens in the past is not totally the ML's fault. Idk if you understand i meant but i only meant that the severity of what Ml did in the past is kinda*, being justified and degraded because he has a reason NOW and that is being drugged. Convenient right?
The reason was there all along, it was just reveled now. That's how a story is narrated.
It's not convenient, it's just how things are.
It’s convenient because he has plot amour. It’s not because that the author had planned this out in the beginning. This situation is like if a person who got shot survived because they conveniently had a metal in the place they got shot at. Even if it’s planned it’s still plot amour lmao
this! thank you, you explained what I can't explain clearly. Lolol ofc he's the ML, the author would give a reasonable background
People don't become crazy for a reason. Even Allendis has a reason why he's a yandere.
So maybe everything that happened for a reason should be stated as "convenient" then, because some people felt like main characters shouldn't get some background.
Also afaik, I thought plot armor refers to people who can survive from even the impossible situation. If Ruve has plot armor, he'd survive and get his shit together from whatever the duke is doing to him before everything fell apart lol.
Bro its not that deep. Even if plot armor means what you had stated, what I meant is that his action are still being justified thanks to this findings of him being drugged. Which is cONvEnienT because now she has a reason to feel bad for him and now they be the endgame even though he had treated her poorly in the past. You're taking the words way too seriously.
Lmao they're taking the convenient and plot armour word thing too seriously... just say you are (trash) ml apologist then go
they sooo pressed like for what?
The author can do whatever they like and write shit.yup you're right there.
If you were killed by someone literally and harassed at all points.Someone that killed your family which you witnessed with your own eyes.Would you actually be able to fall for him ever again? Seriously?How much a sucker for pretty faces would you have to be for that?
I wouldn't fall for such a guy even if he was under drug influence.
Imagine your husband killing you father and cheating on you while abusing you physically and emotionally and you still loving him?? What kind of absolute shit?
This is beyond ridiculous. We're talking about the story of a protagonist that travel back in time to a moment of her childhood with all memories and knowledge of her previous life. That is the core plot.
If you want to use this idea, then she returning in time was pretty damn convenient! She remembering everything, so convenient. So she lost her child because she was being poisoned in her past life? So damn convenient!
It's a magical fictional story. And we were provided all fundaments to know for sure that the prince was actually a good person. You can't deny 60 chapters of his character just because we have like 2 where He was an asshole without any explanation at the start of the story.
Now we're talking about Aristia? Of courae what you said is true. The whole travel back it time is also convenient for the Aristia just like how the poison is convenient for the ML. Of course they are the main characters, they are special lmao...
Idc if that ruve is different from the 1st timeline but it doesnt change the fact that the author is forcing and pushing the thought of the two of them by creating that convenient things. Like duh, that author dont clearly know the meaning of PTSd and other shits. Let me ask you questions: would you forgive rapists for raping people because they are under influence of alcohol? Would you forgive a psychopath because they have mental illnesses?
Accept the fact that not many people would acxept Ruve as the ML. And what did you say?
- "You can't deny 60 chapters of his character just because we have like 2 where He was an asshole without any explanation at the start of the story." Well, that 2 chapters causes trauma and PTSD. That 2 chapters is the reason for her doomed so dont just belittle what happened to MC because its not easy...
BICH ISJNSDMK WTF. Time travelling is literally what the WHOLE story is about and what causes it to start in the first place. How tf are you gonna compare to him being drugged which is only a small part of the story lmao. Yes its convenient for the FL to travel back in time but if she hasn't travel the story wouldn't be here in the first place. On the other hand, the male lead being drugged only happened because the author had probably wanted to somehow male them the endgame EVEN though he was a piece of shit. Instead of continuing to portray the ML as a bad person the author now wanna make him seems innocent and guiltable. Its like forgiving a rapist just because he was under the influence. Idek how I'm supposed to explain it through that thick brain of yours
What is convenient is for the author to get readers like you to think that you experience such trauma,You see all this happen in front of your eyes(referring to the prev timeline),you experience getting raped by a person and you witness a murderer who killed your family and whose inferiority complex lead him to do all this to ONLY you if he was drugged not to mention all the harm he did even when he wasn't drugged.And after all this you are still capable of falling in love withthat person.The only reason why this would be justified is if artisia is sick in the head,like pshycological crazy shit.Like people hosting a fan page for serial killers in real life as them being charming and wanting to be their love interest cause that would mean that he can kill people but wouldn't harm you cause he loves you and you are special. Fantasising about stuff like this.
Is being killed so easily overcome.How horrifying of an experience is it to fall again for your killer makes no sense.It just shows how much hold a man of power and charisma has on women that they would stupidly fall for them again.Sacrifice themselves for someone who killed them.What is expected of women infinitely yeilding in love for the man.
Actually, it looks like the author knows better than you how PTSd works, as we have received about 100 chapters of her reacting towards her thrauma. It's weird for you to not know that you CAN work into it to get better, even more with all those years of a healthy environment.
By the way, if you present to the court a case where the rapist was purposely intoxicated in order to commit a crime (without they knowing or accepting) they won't be taken as a culprit, but as a colateral victim and the person who drugged them will be the one facing the charges.
A psycopath is a totally diferent case, as the ones who commit crimes (That are not all of them, you really should research a little before going into that argument; it's even kind of insensitive to just jump and use them in your frail attempt to blow things out of proportion) are unable to feel remorse so it's impossible to clarify if they're going to commit a crime again. As they're labeled a danger (This oh so little fraction of the population having this illness) , they get charged. BUT there's a lot of other mental illnesses where they wouldn't face charges. Even so, this is no way near to what happened here: This prince don't have any mental illness and He's not a danger to people (at least in this time line).
As I said, this is beyond ridiculos. I don't care if you "ship" them or not; you can like him or not, I really don't care. I'm here because you said something that is stupidly inaccurate: "how convenient". As an author myself I can't stand to see how you go ahead so lightly offending this writter's story just because of your personal grudge against one character's actions. Learn the difference between "I don't like it" and "it's badly written".
Also, the author is telling THEIR story, not yours. They're not pushing any thought on you, they're simply narrating what happens in THEIR world. You can think, feel and interpret whatever you want from it, that's your problem. That doesn't mean that they're wrong and you're right about how they decide their plot to be constructed.
They did a great job with all what has traspassed in the story until now, you're just whining.
First: "psycological crazy shit", very sensitive of you. That's how much respect you have for the whole situation, so don't try to take the high moral ground with that kind of statements, please.
Second: You're trying to apply real life morals into a plot that's about traveling in time to your previous self. Really? It's FICTION, and when fiction is written characters can take good or bad desitions depending on the situation, because they're telling a story. I'm not going to enter in a debate about if she is wrong or right because that's not for me to judge, I'm here to enjoy the narrative. What dazzles me is that you think that anything that happens ever in a story must be some kind of example to all people in the world, and if a character is not perfect (according to your own moral subjective values) then it means that it should be eresed because is teaching people to be evil. Also, this idea that "oh, the character I don't like was good all along? BULLSHIT, this was manipulated and they're saying raping is ok". I don't want to know what would you do reading Faust, Frankenstein or any book from Marquis de Sade.
You want this plastic, stiff and repetitive kind of story where everything is morally and politically right anyone makes the right thing and everything always go according what you like. If you people want that, write a book instead of reading other people's material. They're not wrong just because you don't like it.
This is a great story with well developed characters, and a solid background and lore. Period.
I'm done here, you are really taking everything SO seriously. Omg, you even brought out court cases things like that when I just use those as example. I didnt even say that Ruve have a mental illness or what. The topic is not about legal cases or something, it's about how ridiculous it is to forgive and even get together with someone who did those bad things. It's not about the legal who is right or wrong here. It's about the feelings because that is ridiculous, the notion to be in love with that guy who killed ur family and you
I'm just stating my opinion, idont like the two of them as a couple and i can never understand nor accept the reasoning about that and why they get together in the end.
Yeah ur right, i'm whining or whatever u call it. I'm a reader here so i can interpret the story how i like and I can say whatever i have. I can judge this story and I can ship whoever i want. If I think it is badly written then that is my opinion. If this story ks good for you and u enjoy this type of story then okay, not my problem. If u cant also understand my opinion, thats also ur problem. It is my opinion, for the last time, i didnt say anything about me being the right one here.
Lmao im done here, we clearly have different opinions about this matter, I'm done explaining my side, interpret it as you wish. Muting this now..
ML was drugged in the past ofc what a convenient plot