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Yeeeee you're protecting. Understanding doesn't go one way. As a character she's trying, and she's trying to understand, so small steps for someone might be huge steps for others. You must understand too that other people need to deal with their issues at their own pace and speed not at yours, and as long as both understand that and both are trying, it's fine, eventually they'll reach a middle point.
But if you pressure the other to understand at a speed you can be comfortable with, that might broke things further.

*projecting

I understand what you mean, but it's important to remember that change and growth aren't immediate things. The mom has deeply rooted beliefs cuz of her environment. Lbr with a husband like that, her kids were probably her only joy. She's struggling to understand her idea of happiness is not her son's idea of happiness. Maybe she's shocked by Shouichi's dad's pic because of how *normal* it is to him. Things she's not used to aren't just magically all natural to her. Change takes work, and undoing biases (conscious or not), is a process. It's uncomfortable, but important. I enjoy how they're not letting her off the hook for her wrong, but are giving her that chance to change. It's interesting to read, feels very real, and I hope it goes well for them.

Definitely! I also like that the author is giving her the opportunity to stand for herself, and I think it was a jakemate move to see Souichi's dad being so open and relax about the whole issue, that gives her another point of view and it's an important one. I feel that she was able to confront her husband because of that reason, she wants to build a new bridge with Morinaga, and she might not want to see her son with another man yet, but I'm sure she'll reach a point where she can be happy for her son and comfortable enough to know a boyfriend exists. Old people are hard to change, and love that she's trying.

Yeah, I get that, but even if I'm not projecting, I just don't think is realistic to expect her to change 14 years of views in a single volume for the plot sake. What they can do in 4 more chapters is just the "I love my son I don't love that he is gay"

Exactly because chance isn't immediate that I don't see how is possible for them to give us a satisfactory change for oka-san in just one volume. Yes she is trying to change, that's why I said "trying to change at least" but since the plot arcs are single volumed I feel like they are letting pass a lot more then they should. I'm totally down for it if next chapter is just morinanga e is mom talking things out the whole chapter ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Nah you're twisting my words to suit your own means now, lol. Change is a process, yes, but the actions we take to start it can be immediate. Even if the understanding takes time, she's starting to change her actions. She lied to her husband to come talk it out with Morinaga. That is an act to spark change. Now she's stood her ground and refused to cut him off, even though as you mentioned, there's clearly still a lack of understanding of his gayness. That is also an act to spark change. The worst thing anyone can do is refuse to change. The dad is clearly like that. If they magically made him accept I would not be okay with that writing, it'd be WAY too unrealistic. But the mom is trying to change herself. She's taking actions to shift her mindset. And we should be waiting to see how the author carries that out before writing it off, or saying it's done completely right.

But dear that's exactly what I said, I said she is trying to change, meaning she is beginning to change, but is unrealistic to expect her to turn her views around in a single volume. And again, we still have 4 chapters left to wait and see

Author can do whatever she wants with her story, and there's definitely people who can surmount their priorities with a single encounter that impact them enough. You're definitely projecting XD

I support your point of view, I completely agree with you.

Yeah they can, not arguing with you there, but that doesn't oblige me to agree with it or even like. But if you feel that way, good for you bud!! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Putting aside the greater notion of the ethical debate of change as a concept (and the fact that you called me, a near 30 year old, "dear" in a patronizing way) - you also gotta remember that the end of the day this is glorified smut. While I enjoy character depth and the writing, are we really going to argue the sanctity of ethical arguments presented...in yaoi manga? ¯_(ツ)_/¯
It's an interesting and fun conversation for a little debate, but ultimately if the pacing is unrealistic...it's...it's yaoi.

Yeah so? Age has nothing to do with this, dear and darling are just pet names.
And yeah, agree, it's yaoi. I, for one, have fun debating it online, even more so this one that I have been reading for the last 14 years of my life, so, taking into that account, I do hope for it to be well develop, and not for things to be rushed so they can fuck in the end (don't get me wrong, I like the smut), to summarize, wanting the plot to be well develop and not just rushed cause its fiction it's important to me

My point is that you shouldnt call me a pet name in a demeaning tone when you don't know me. I don't appreciate it. Anyways, I've been reading it for...16 years now if memory serves, so I get it. But for having read this series so long I'm personally on the side of being glad to see it do something different and interesting ¯_(ツ)_/¯