There was a warning in the first page of the first chapter, everyone knew what they were getting to. It's like knowing you're walking into the wrong house and saying "oh man! This is the wrong house :/" when you enter. It's clear that some of you virgins have never seen explicit content, if you can't handle this then it's much better if you stay away from this website, btw a website with much worse content than this softcore porn. People saying "oh I wish I had this app" are clearly joking it's quite concerning if you can't tell a difference between a joke and a serious statement + fiction and reality
shhh u get outta here will ur sense and logic! (like explicit content like this is aimed at adults only for a Reason. because adults presumably can tell fact from fiction, ok behavior irl from not ok behavior irl...) but also ppl worried about what's ok irl...literally even if anyone here WANTED to do what the MC in this comic is doing...they cant? its like kind practically impossible withotu the kind of magic this MC is using? ffs...
shhh u get outta here will ur sense and logic! (like explicit content like this is aimed at adults only for a Reason. because adults presumably can tell fact from fiction, ok behavior irl from not ok behavior i... Tai
Honestly, im tired of people not being able to enjoy fiction. Soon enough, crime webtoons are gonna be bad because it have crime in it. Like stfu
Honestly, im tired of people not being able to enjoy fiction. Soon enough, crime webtoons are gonna be bad because it have crime in it. Like stfu Lizu
the Discourse only seems to happen with smut stories that involve dubious consent, (and also noncon but that is more cut and dry than dubcon) esp when it involves women as the perpetrators. tho some BL and vanilla Het stuff gets criticisms too but no one on this site cares enough about typical het with dubcon to turn into a mess like the comment section for this webtoon (or any other femdom one). BL comment sections get more heated over who the endgame couple is/should be than they did about problematic sex scenes. only femdom seems to involve dozens of (usually female) commenters lecturing other (female) commenters about why rape is bad. u know because women ofc dont know that, its not like thats a looming threat over us for most of our lives or anything~ or that the most common victims of rape are women or that the most comment perpetrators of rape against men are MEN not women. like some of yall wnna talke about The Reality of rape but only insofar as to prove ur ~Point~ about why this comic is gross and we should all feel gross if we like it and or dont trip over ourselves to explain that we know rape is bad and we feel bad about it so we're Good and agree with the point that Rape is Bad we just reading this cause...who tf knows why i giss??? The other thing is BL is the most popular genre on this site and even more light sweet BL has dubcon in it (BJ Alex typical campus romance has TONS of dubcon and is one of the most popular webtoons on this site and on Lezhin english), and BJ alex is way more interested in reflecting reality than SB has ever been. so where are the lectures, the discourse, the thinkpiece essays in the comments there?? Its funny too cause alot of people who read femdom also love BL because BL and femdom overlap in terms of both of them being interested in showing men being sexually vulnerable. so if alot of the same people reading stuff like SB or No Holes Barred or S Flower are ALSO reading BL comics with similar themes...why do the most popular BL comcis never recieve the same level of scrutiny and kinkshaming? Like if a person hates dubcon, thats fine, but then a ton of pornographic material should now be off the table..dubcon and even noncon, its practically a staple of most adult entertainment. you cannot convince me that people who read porn regularly are THIS mad about problematic sex scenes (or dynamics) in everythign they read and if they were, they wouldnt have ever even clicked on this comic that has two men with dog collars on them while a woman holds their leash in the first place. (this comic has been about hardcore sadomasochism kink from literally the first few chpts ffs) But let me change focus here, when i go read TL manga which is usually very mild vanilla het smut where the guy is super pushy and the girl goes "nuuuu" the entire time...MOST of the comments are about how the female lead is dumb/weak/stupid etc NOT about how the male lead is an evil rapey bastard (some people will complain about him, most if they complain tho will be about how the comic itself is rapey and or stupid and the FL is annoying). be it BL or vanilla het porn or femdom, the male characters NEVER get the level of hate the female ones do. i wonder how many of these people that hate doona and think this comic is gross, have read BL with similar themes and just pushed past the unsavory bits without getting upset enough to leave tirades in the comment sections. how many of them have read a comic where the female lead is NOT a rapist but still found reasons to hate the shit out of her anyway? like...i wish yall (not u!) would reflect on why u feel so angry about this specific comic and this specific female lead. like we seriously need to have a talk about internalized misogyny on this site, like everyone wants ot have a Serious Talk about rape and consent but as soon as some of us want to talk about sexism and double standards we get shut down super quickly and intensely. and that's messed up. more messed up than this silly comic that largely exists as fap material ffs, sorry for the essay! its just my general feelings right now. i guess i hoped online discourse wrt female characaters had evolved since i first got online back in 2001 but nope...yall still rly fuckin hate other women and its sad.
the Discourse only seems to happen with smut stories that involve dubious consent, (and also noncon but that is more cut and dry than dubcon) esp when it involves women as the perpetrators. tho some BL and vani... Tai
Yes, I read a lot of straight things and I swear the guy never gets hate on cause he's hot and rich,but they'll on a girl who can't do anything against said man, its always been one of my pet peeve. And y3ah many people fail to realize most men who get rape are by other MEN not women. I'm really glad to find someone who actually understands what I've been trying to say, people won't hate on a manga unless they hate what its about cause when they like it, they never talk about the noncon or the toxicity of such story. Most people just hate seeing strong, and domineering woman and only like the sub abf pure ones
Yes, I read a lot of straight things and I swear the guy never gets hate on cause he's hot and rich,but they'll on a girl who can't do anything against said man, its always been one of my pet peeve. And y3ah ma... Lizu
<3 but also even the pure subby women can get called weak or annoying if they arent pure or submissive in like the Right Way. cause people hate women~ even other women~ u hate 2 see it.
<3 but also even the pure subby women can get called weak or annoying if they arent pure or submissive in like the Right Way. cause people hate women~ even other women~ u hate 2 see it. Tai
There was a warning in the first page of the first chapter, everyone knew what they were getting to.
It's like knowing you're walking into the wrong house and saying "oh man! This is the wrong house :/" when you enter.
It's clear that some of you virgins have never seen explicit content, if you can't handle this then it's much better if you stay away from this website, btw a website with much worse content than this softcore porn.
People saying "oh I wish I had this app" are clearly joking
it's quite concerning if you can't tell a difference between a joke and a serious statement + fiction and reality
Finally some people with common sense-
shhh u get outta here will ur sense and logic! (like explicit content like this is aimed at adults only for a Reason. because adults presumably can tell fact from fiction, ok behavior irl from not ok behavior irl...) but also ppl worried about what's ok irl...literally even if anyone here WANTED to do what the MC in this comic is doing...they cant? its like kind practically impossible withotu the kind of magic this MC is using? ffs...
Honestly, im tired of people not being able to enjoy fiction. Soon enough, crime webtoons are gonna be bad because it have crime in it. Like stfu
the Discourse only seems to happen with smut stories that involve dubious consent, (and also noncon but that is more cut and dry than dubcon) esp when it involves women as the perpetrators. tho some BL and vanilla Het stuff gets criticisms too but no one on this site cares enough about typical het with dubcon to turn into a mess like the comment section for this webtoon (or any other femdom one). BL comment sections get more heated over who the endgame couple is/should be than they did about problematic sex scenes. only femdom seems to involve dozens of (usually female) commenters lecturing other (female) commenters about why rape is bad. u know because women ofc dont know that, its not like thats a looming threat over us for most of our lives or anything~ or that the most common victims of rape are women or that the most comment perpetrators of rape against men are MEN not women. like some of yall wnna talke about The Reality of rape but only insofar as to prove ur ~Point~ about why this comic is gross and we should all feel gross if we like it and or dont trip over ourselves to explain that we know rape is bad and we feel bad about it so we're Good and agree with the point that Rape is Bad we just reading this cause...who tf knows why i giss???
The other thing is BL is the most popular genre on this site and even more light sweet BL has dubcon in it (BJ Alex typical campus romance has TONS of dubcon and is one of the most popular webtoons on this site and on Lezhin english), and BJ alex is way more interested in reflecting reality than SB has ever been. so where are the lectures, the discourse, the thinkpiece essays in the comments there??
Its funny too cause alot of people who read femdom also love BL because BL and femdom overlap in terms of both of them being interested in showing men being sexually vulnerable. so if alot of the same people reading stuff like SB or No Holes Barred or S Flower are ALSO reading BL comics with similar themes...why do the most popular BL comcis never recieve the same level of scrutiny and kinkshaming?
Like if a person hates dubcon, thats fine, but then a ton of pornographic material should now be off the table..dubcon and even noncon, its practically a staple of most adult entertainment. you cannot convince me that people who read porn regularly are THIS mad about problematic sex scenes (or dynamics) in everythign they read and if they were, they wouldnt have ever even clicked on this comic that has two men with dog collars on them while a woman holds their leash in the first place. (this comic has been about hardcore sadomasochism kink from literally the first few chpts ffs)
But let me change focus here, when i go read TL manga which is usually very mild vanilla het smut where the guy is super pushy and the girl goes "nuuuu" the entire time...MOST of the comments are about how the female lead is dumb/weak/stupid etc NOT about how the male lead is an evil rapey bastard (some people will complain about him, most if they complain tho will be about how the comic itself is rapey and or stupid and the FL is annoying). be it BL or vanilla het porn or femdom, the male characters NEVER get the level of hate the female ones do. i wonder how many of these people that hate doona and think this comic is gross, have read BL with similar themes and just pushed past the unsavory bits without getting upset enough to leave tirades in the comment sections. how many of them have read a comic where the female lead is NOT a rapist but still found reasons to hate the shit out of her anyway? like...i wish yall (not u!) would reflect on why u feel so angry about this specific comic and this specific female lead. like we seriously need to have a talk about internalized misogyny on this site, like everyone wants ot have a Serious Talk about rape and consent but as soon as some of us want to talk about sexism and double standards we get shut down super quickly and intensely. and that's messed up. more messed up than this silly comic that largely exists as fap material ffs, sorry for the essay! its just my general feelings right now. i guess i hoped online discourse wrt female characaters had evolved since i first got online back in 2001 but nope...yall still rly fuckin hate other women and its sad.
Yes, I read a lot of straight things and I swear the guy never gets hate on cause he's hot and rich,but they'll on a girl who can't do anything against said man, its always been one of my pet peeve. And y3ah many people fail to realize most men who get rape are by other MEN not women. I'm really glad to find someone who actually understands what I've been trying to say, people won't hate on a manga unless they hate what its about cause when they like it, they never talk about the noncon or the toxicity of such story. Most people just hate seeing strong, and domineering woman and only like the sub abf pure ones
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<3
but also even the pure subby women can get called weak or annoying if they arent pure or submissive in like the Right Way. cause people hate women~ even other women~ u hate 2 see it.
Yep, I see it everyday. And I'm tired of it