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this shit not even a toxic yaoi. jaekyung and mingwa are the only toxic here. no well written characters, overused plot, poor execution of his supposed to be "redemption arc"?

Yeah the term “toxic yoai/yuri” is just overused in general especially when people have no idea how the actual troupe/genre works as a whole.

How is it stupid to say "he’s slowly becoming better" when we all came here waiting for that xD (knowing perfectly that's what is gonna happen). Nothing is romanticized, like I said we know he's going to be a better guy despite the bad things he did, this is supposed to be a love story after all, like the author said, the love is going to show itself slowly. I like it when all start bad and become good between protagonists. And we're not talking about shipping, they are meant to be together from start, it's LITERALLY their story.
Bro, I'm here for the drama, the toxicity, the taboo, it's clearly not for everyone. But I guarantee you this is a common trope and a basic yaoi story (one of the softest yaoi btw) and I dare you to read "Reverse Thinking" this is traumatic for me so I stopped reading, so do the same.

Ranked top bl manhwa... But just saying ┐(￣ー￣)┌

and yet you're still here for some reason??? you dropped this already and those social media platforms you use have block/mute features. Use them. Nothing here should concern you any further.

Stop policing other people. Your tasteless opinion is bullshit and unsolicited. Gtfo.

What the fuck are you saying? You’re romanticizing a rapist. One thing is someone being bad or mean like rivals or a bully (i guess a bully is tolerable for the sake of a redemption arc) but Jaekyung is a coercive abusive rapist. Nothing about this is redeemable. We read enemies to lovers to watch them slowly fall in love, this is just disgusting. Its disgusting that someone thunks like you too. Ugh.

Meant to dislike, sorry

I’m not policing other people love, I never once said you couldn’t ship it I just said I personally found it weird.

This is a platform with a comment section I’m allowed to express my thoughts & opinions just like everybody else!!

1: most people who say it use it as an excuse to justify the ship!! It’s just also overall stupid to say when you consider the context in general.

2: saying “nothing is romanticized” is a complete lie WHILE you may not see it I have countless times which is why I made the statement in the first place, countless people romanticize their relationship or gloss over everything that happened before hand.

3: “this is supposed to be a love story after all” yeah one that’s build off of rape abuse & several other aspects that aren’t being handled properly in the slightest.

4: “their meant to be together from the start” okay?? That doesn’t change the fact that it’s a ship and people ship it

5: if your here for everything you listed okay cool unless your apart of the group I brought up then I don’t know why you felt the need to specify any of this.

Yeah it’s ranked “top” bl for an obvious reason.. one I stated earlier

man there's no point arguing with these dumbasses who's too stupid to understand what's wrong with this story, their relationship, and the characters. they will defend that horse looking mfer like he did nothing wrong and will give u justification of his actions based on his "redemption arc" which is his not so sad back story and a pity party

Also respectfully love you should take your own advice, you could’ve simply blocked me if my “tasteless” opinion bothered you so much instead of being disrespectful & getting on your high horse + replying. Nothing with my comment should concern you any further let’s not act hypocritical!!

I don’t intend to argue with them, they were pretty respectful with their statement so I decided to reply back, I don’t think I’m going to change their opinion in the slightest but they aren’t being disrespectful nor hypocritical. compared to another person who can’t even follow their own advice

Dont know why you felt the need to tell me this lol especially if you aren’t going to include your reasoning

With that being said mistakes happen

btch shút up please, if you can't understand people, go express your frustration elsewhere. Kids these days, listen read something else stop bothering ppl lmaooo most yaoi start bad, not as rivals btch nor bully. Read more yaoi.

Nice. Now that you did. You're mission in this comment section is over. You dislike it, we understand, next step is stop reading it and never show your face here again (you can't right...)

Brother, this is supposed to be a fiction, why the hell are you taking this SO seriously... Chiiiiiill, open your window, all of this isn't read, it's someones imagination, and people who read it have a life too, jobs, maybe kids coz ooohhhh we're adults, we're not discovering this genre, you do. So chill and go do your homework

Yeah right, now grow up.

Its ranked top because of problematic pieces of shit like you!! WHICH CONSTITUTES THE MAJORITY OF THE BL READING COMMUNITY THAT ROMANTICIZES RAPISTS
Xoxo

LMAOOOO each comment of you gives me the right to ask myself this question you can't even answer :"the fk you're even doing here"? Just to shít on yaoi fans, what a boring life you have... Get one first tho... However, I'm interested about the "problematic" part how are yaoi fans problematic? Develop.

hey so once again since its clear you suck as basic reading

1: I don't read this anymore infact I dropped it when I realized it was another classic romanticized rape troupe

2: once again this is a free comment section I'm allowed to give criticism especially when that criticism is calling out people who romanticize something that they shouldn't.

3: Please take you're own advice if you cant express your disagreement with me in a respectful way then stop replying and "never show your face here again"

1: "this is supposed to be fiction" okay and?? how does that change the fact people romanticize rape and abuse?? like cool its fiction about topics that happen irl??
I am very chill about it, if I wasn't I would be borderline insulting people.

2: :people who read it have a life too" okay?? and people who give criticism also have a life too I don't understand you're point of bringing this up

You’re free to criticize, but you stopped at chapter 5 or whatever, so allow me to doubt it, and not take you seriously, what you're doing is not critic "I really hate seeing people ship jaekyung & Kim Dan" isn't a critic, your whole comment is you condemning people who read this and judging them, which is disrespectful. I also suggest you keep you opinion about people, about me, I suck of basic reading is your opinion and I don't really give a fk about what you think about me ^^
People are capable of separating a story from real life, and enjoying dark or problematic themes in fiction doesn’t mean they condone them in reality. Saying that people who like this are ‘romanticizing abuse’ is generalization.
Also where did you see I disrespected you?

"I really hate seeing people ship jakyung & Kim" that circt especially when you take the time to read everything else I included an stated, I hate seeing people ship it because they romanticize problematic aspects or just water them down in general the first part of the statement was an opinion and the criticism connected to it.

also I'm not condemning people who read this unless they romanticize rape sa and abuse or just borderline defend it like you're doing right now. I already told you if you just read it for the drama then that's FINE you're not apart of the group of people I'm talking about, this is now my third time pointing this out TO YOU. stop cherry picking.

also I never said people who like this are romanticizing abuse that just furthermore proves you lack basic comprehension and you like to cherrypick. I don't care if you read dark or problematic theme just don't for the 8th time romanticize them

If you ROMANTICIZE or DEFEND the rape sa abuse and other problematic aspects I'm judging you, okay? fully read this and don't cherrypick words.

"people are capable of separating a story from real life" okay cool never said they couldn't

Bro, chill you remind me of an aggressive teacher I had when I was young...
So we came here to see these two protagonists, knowing the toxicity of the relationship SO YES we ship them HARD. I also like the sa part, yeah the problematic part... Does that bother you? Do probably think I defend it too. I suggest you think more about that.

Hey, is Sinvuna your second account? XDDDD

1: liking something doesn't mean that you defend it, its just weird in my opinion depending on the context, however for a fourth time now, IF YOU JUST READ IT you aren't apart of the group of people I'm talking about, I suggest you learn how to read properly.

2: "so yes we ship them hard" This is not some random rarepair, like you said this is supposed to be a "love story" the whole entire ship is built off of problematic aspects that you cant take away or swap out with something else. there's no way you hardcore ship them unless you romanticize the troupe I talked about earlier. There's no foundation of their relationship that's healthy or that you can ship.

hmm what makes you think that

You only read like five chapters, so why are you saying crap like that? Yaoi almost always has its toxic side. Are you really that offended by this manhwa because it's cliché? That's ridiculous

1: it the amount of chapters I’ve read doesn’t change anything I said especially when most of the stuff I’m talking about literally happened in 3 separate chapters that I DID READ. I’ve heard also enough about the manwha to know what’s going on in the chapters + i read the comments, they make it obvious on what’s happening.

2: “yaoi almost always has its toxic side” okay and? I never said it didn’t, I don’t know why you guys feel the need to bring this stuff up, it dose
not help your point .

3: “are you really offend by this manwha because it’s cliché” god you lack basic comprehension skills, nowhere did I state I was offended nor was it implied anything, i literally just criticized the fact the author & a bunch of the readers romanticize something they shouldn’t. That’s not me being offend that’s a basic fact..

*the amount of chapters I read*

weirdo alert weirdo alert

newgen pest omfg I can't— young "adult" moments hhnnnggh

1. The number of chapters you’ve read DOES matter, because context changes how events and characters are framed. Reading comments is not the same as following the actual story

2. The “toxic side” of yaoi is directly relevant to your criticism. If you acknowledge that toxicity is a common trope in the genre, then it makes sense that this manhwa reflects that...

3. Your tone did imply more than just “basic criticism.” Saying the author and readers are “romanticizing something they shouldn’t” carries a moral judgment like I said earlier. That’s different from simply pointing out clichés

Oh no somebody called me a weirdo I’m so offended

The only weirdo here are jinx fans who romanticize and defend rape, sa and abuse.

“Newgen pest” love that doesn’t make sense in the slightest nor is it an insult, especially since I’m not a new gen when it comes to anything..

Also who TF brought up adults? Please go back to school and learn basic comprehension and connection skills this is concerning

1: the number of chapters I read literally does not matter especially since what I’m talking about literally happened in the first few chapters of this manwha. Yes context changes how event and characters are framed I KNOW THAT, like I stated THREE times now I already know enough that’s been happening way before this chapter because people actively talk and criticize this manwha. On top of that I never said reading comments is the same as following the story nor did I imply it, once again read.

2: the toxic side of yoai is relevant to my comment however I’m not talking about other “toxic yaoi” since what’s happening in this manwha once again is not a “toxic yaoi” troupe it’s just borderline problematic, being a rapist + abuser is not toxic and actual toxic yaoi isn’t one sided either.

3: “your time did imply more then basic criticism” it didn’t you just generally suck at reading . “The author and fans romanticize something that they shouldn’t” that’s literally criticism, I’m criticizing the author and some of the fans for romanticizing something that they shouldn’t. When you criticize something you can do it in two formats, one that’s calling out the problem and criticizes it, and the other that calls out the problem but also gives solutions and tip. I’m falling the first format, I’m calling something out and then I’m actively criticizing the people who are apart of the problem.

4: “that’s different from pointing out cliches” no it’s not.. I’m still pointing something out just using a format of criticism you clearly weren’t taught about.

gtfo pest

get a life pest

sybau newgen puritan pest

Telling somebody to “sybau” is wild

Anyways take your own advice love!!

I have a life, you don’t tho especially since you keep actively replying with insults!!

Follow your own advice love

Always the jinx fans

Always the jinx fans, they can’t read nor hold basic discussions

aint reading allat, puritan minor pest this is why I kind of support the West in age-restricting the internet. Y'all minor-aged bitches claim to know stuff but in reality you don't. You already dropped this manhwa, none here concerns you any longer, and you're not in-charge of A N Y T H I N G! You claim you're not policing anyone but you're doing exactly just that and the fact that you don't realize it yourself is so fucking telling. Everything you've posted and commented so far in here were all unsolicited, unwarranted, and uncalled for.

You're not even supposed to be reading anything 18+ btw, M I N O R.

I'm gonna stop replying now, but you should be embarrassed of yourself, newgen kiddo. Touch some grass outside and play games instead, won't ya? :)

also for the record — I'm not even a Jinx fan, just a casual reader :)

I don't even like the characters that much and I do think the plot can do some improvements.

Just goes to show how fucking naive and shallow you and your comprehension you so think you have, are <3 toodles!

Im going to refer to you as a jinx fans when you get on your hands and knees to whine about criticism.

If you don’t like the characters and think the plots need improvement then you just sat here and got mad at basic criticism for no reason. You have you’re own and I have mine the fact that you cannot compare hand not respect that is concerning.

Also I called you a jinx fan because you act like one, it has nothing to do with comprehension. You interact with the manwha, you get mad at basic criticism that calls out problematic aspects, and several other things that jinx fans do, act like one ima call you one. If you’re a casual reader act like it.

Yeah okay so you sound mad dumb

1: i never once said I was in charge of anything nor did I imply I was in charge of anything, I gave criticism about certain aspects I didn’t like when it came to the story and when it came to the fans + author, never said you had to agree with them nor did I expect you to agree.

2: “everything you’ve posted so far in here were all unwarranted and uncalled for” okay and the same can be said about you?? You’re actively insulting a minor & telling them to “sybau” { kill themsleves” } because they expressed somthin YOU don’t like, not only was that unwarranted for but it’s also extremely childish, especially coming from somebody who’s supposed to be an adult.

3: take your own advice and stop embarrassing yourself love, you’re a grown ass adult telling children to kill themsleves because you cannot hold a basic conversation.

4: “you’re not supposed to be reading anything 18+ MINOR” I’m not supposed to be reading NSFW and you aren’t supposed to be telling minors to kill themsleves. Notice how we’re both doing things we aren’t supposed to yet ones more problematic then the other.

Ain't no way I'mma read that dude, credibility x 0 since you didn't read this manhwa. Come back with a true critic when you finish reading. Bye.

I don't have to come back when I finish reading it once again everything I'm talking about happened in the first few chapters and several chapters afterwards.

learn basic compression, BYEE

You literally say you hate it, something about you, so yes, it offended you. I'm telling you how cliché yaoi is in its toxicity, so I don't know why you're so surprised by this. Many people have a stupid hatred for Jinx, so I think it's kind of silly that you're guided by opinions. They're just drawings, so don't be shocked by that aspect, that someone likes these themes in manhwas specifically.

God you sound silly.

1: hating something doesn’t mean you’re offended by it. I hate swimming, does that mean I’m offended by water? No, I hate loud sounds, does that mean I’m offended by them? No, I hate people who romanticize and defend rape SA & abuse, does that mean I’m offended? NO, please understand and grasp that love.

2: I literally don’t need you to tell me that, I’ve been reading yaoi & I have been on this platform long enough to know that, I’m also allowed to criticize it, hope that helps.

3. “Many people have a stupid hatered for jinx” it’s not stupid tho, in fact many people have valid reasons, two of them being.. it romanticizes troupes that it shouldn’t & the most of the fans are borderline weird.

4: “they’re just drawings” okay cool? It takes aspects from reality, aspects people have been affected by, don’t act surprised when people criticize others for romanticizing them